31 Jul
2007
31 Jul
'07
6:14 p.m.
On 7/31/07, Thomas Vecchione <seablaede(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Dang it, I apologize to the list, I forgot this list
DOES reply to the list
when I hit reply, and nto reply to all.
Seablade
I must admit this is a issue I wanted to raise for a while now...
For those of you who haven't heard, there has been a very long debate
on whether replyto munging was or wasn't a god practice. Each side had
a reference paper stating a number of pros and cons :
- http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
- http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html
The fight between Simon Hill and Chip Rosenthal finaly ended in 2001
when a new RFC obsoleting RFC 822 appeared, RFC2822.
Here's a paper from Neale Pickett stating the final story :
http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful
I strongly consider turning munging off on LAD and LAU. I know this
might start some flames, but isn't it good free software philosophy to
stick to the standards, especially when it comes to a recently
reviewed RFC ?
If someone can give me an argument that is not present in the 3
previously linked documents stating why we need to munge our headers,
I'll turn munging off next week.
Regards,
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31 Jul
31 Jul
6:30 p.m.
New subject: [LAU] ReplyTo munging (Was: What hardware is actually used by freebob/ffado users?)
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 10:14:44PM +0200, Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:
I strongly consider turning munging off on LAD and
LAU. I know this
might start some flames, but isn't it good free software philosophy to
stick to the standards, especially when it comes to a recently
reviewed RFC ?
+1
I used to like reply-to munging. But I've come to think that the risk
of accidentally posting private stuff in public greatly outweighs the
convenience of munging and the hassle of occasionally posting a
private reply by accident. And you can get convenience by using a
non-broken client.
(For example, Mutt users can add to .muttrc:
lists linux-audio-dev(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
lists linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
... and get in the habit of using "L" to reply to the list, or just
plain old "g" to reply-all.)
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
6:47 p.m.
New subject: [LAU] ReplyTo munging (Was: What hardware is actually used by freebob/ffado users?)
While my post is used as an example, I would prefer to have it left on. I
can't count how many times I have to resend things I accidentally did not
send to the entire list on lists without it, and those are just the things I
caught. My only real problem is because I have multiple lists on the same
account, just remembering which is which.
Seablade
7:44 p.m.
New subject: [LAU] ReplyTo munging (Was: What hardware is actually used by freebob/ffado users?)
On Tuesday 31 July 2007 21:30, Paul Winkler wrote:
I used to like reply-to munging. But I've come to
think that the risk
of accidentally posting private stuff in public greatly outweighs the
convenience
That's exactly how I feel. I've seen too many people post embarrassing
private things to public lists by accident.
It can be interesting -- I learned of someone's divorce that way; I
learned that the married CTO of a technology company was playing
around; I read half of a furious argument mistakenly posted to one of
the Linux audio lists, about people I knew from outside these lists.
Chris
1 Aug
1 Aug
3:59 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] ReplyTo munging (Was: What hardware is actually used by freebob/ffado users?)
On 8/1/07, Chris Cannam <cannam(a)all-day-breakfast.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 31 July 2007 21:30, Paul Winkler wrote:
we should leave it on for entertainment factor then... ;)
Loki
I used to like reply-to munging. But I've
come to think that the risk
of accidentally posting private stuff in public greatly outweighs the
convenience
That's exactly how I feel. I've seen too many people post embarrassing
private things to public lists by accident.
It can be interesting -- I learned of someone's divorce that way; I
learned that the married CTO of a technology company was playing
around; I read half of a furious argument mistakenly posted to one of
the Linux audio lists, about people I knew from outside these lists.
Chris
4:22 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] ReplyTo munging (Was: What hardware is actually used by freebob/ffado users?)
Hallo,
Chris Cannam hat gesagt: // Chris Cannam wrote:
On Tuesday 31 July 2007 21:30, Paul Winkler wrote:
It has happened here on LAD and LAU as well and fuelled flame wars. I'm an
advocate of no munging for a long time, and I'm glad, Marc is
considering it for these lists as well. It also fits better with all
the Sourceforge lists we're on, which all default to no munging as
well, so many people should at least partially be used to no munging.
Ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
I used to like reply-to munging. But I've
come to think that the risk
of accidentally posting private stuff in public greatly outweighs the
convenience
That's exactly how I feel. I've seen too many people post embarrassing
private things to public lists by accident.
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