Linux-audio-user January 2006

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[linux-audio-user] Re: vst: emulate mac intead of win?

by Kjetil S. Matheussen

COCHARD Yves: > Subject: [linux-audio-user] vst: emulate mac intead of win? > To: linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu > Message-ID: <43B18B94.7070801(a)unifr.ch> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi! > > Probably one more stupid idea from me, but here it is: > > Does someone already try to run a vst plugin under linux through a mac's > emulation instead of a windows one? May be it could give less problems > than the wine install... Well I write this because a friend install a > mac emulator and told me it works really good! (but he didn't use it for > audio purpose) > > I don't have any knowlege about emulation, but if mac's stuff is based > on unix, then it might easier for vst in linux? > Well, probably not. Wine is not an emulator, but a windows api implementation for unix. Doing an emulation to run vst plugins would probably make things a bazillion times harder than it already is, not to speak about the loss of performance. --

18 years, 11 months

[linux-audio-user] [admin] music.columbia.edu server downtime

by Joern Nettingsmeier

hi everyone! a happy new year to all folks on the gregorian calendar, and a generic happy next 365 days to everyone else! the music department at columbia university are taking the list server down for an upgrade on the coming weekend, so expect interruptions for linux-audio-dev, linux-audio-user and linux-audio-announce. you will probably want to keep a copy of all the mails you send over the weekend, so that you can re-send them in case they end up in the bit bucket. let me take this opportunity to thank douglas irving repetto for many years of painless hosting and friendly help, and the entire music dept. for their generous donation of iron and bandwidth. kudos, guys! rumor has it that the new list server will be an os x machine. hopefully this will make the lists even more user-friendly and aesthetically pleasing than before ;) all the best, jörn -------- Original Message -------- Subject: music.columbia.edu server downtime Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:21:13 -0500 From: douglas irving repetto <douglas(a)music.columbia.edu> To: douglas(a)music.columbia.edu Hello, We will be upgrading the music.columbia.edu server this weekend. Hopefully all of the work will be done on Saturday, but it may extend into Sunday. music.columbia.edu will not be available during the downtime. That means no websites will be served, no email will be sent/delivered, no mailing lists will function, etc. I'll send an update later this week with info about some changes that you'll see on the new server. Happy new year, douglas -- ............................................... http://artbots.org .....douglas.....irving........................ http://dorkbot.org ................................ http://ceait.calarts.edu/musicdsp .......... repetto....... http://works.music.columbia.edu/organism ............................... http://music.columbia.edu/~douglas -- jörn nettingsmeier home://germany/45128 essen/lortzingstr. 11/ http://spunk.dnsalias.org phone://+49/201/491621 if you are a free (as in "free speech") software developer and you happen to be travelling near my home, drop me a line and come round for a free (as in "free beer") beer. :-D

18 years, 11 months

Re: [linux-audio-user] Copyleftmedia News: The GIMP and Sex, New Madonna Remix Project contributions

by cmetzler＠speakeasy.net

> and have > proven yourselves to be exactly the type of coders lacking in maturity > of which I wrote. Ah. Disagreement with you, or annoyance at attempts to move an off-topic dispute from somewhere else into here too, equals immaturity. All I needed to know. *plonk* -c

18 years, 11 months

[linux-audio-user] Re: linux-audio-user Digest, Vol 28, Issue 10

by David Baron

On Wednesday 04 January 2006 06:56, linux-audio-user-request(a)music.columbia.edu wrote: > > Still cannot get this to play. Kernel boots up fine loading of any alsa > > fails with a bunch of undefined symbols. I am using neither udev nor > > devfs (no longer in kernel)--based on an old knoppix hdinstall, upgraded > > to Debian Sid. > > > > Kernels through 2.6.11 worked fine. 2.6.12 --mpu401 fails, 2.6.14 alsa > > audio fails. Fun. > > The unresolved synbols almost certainly mean that you compiled ALSA > incorrectly. This could include building against the wrong kernel > sources or with a different compiler than was used for the kernel, > failing to unload all the old ALSA modules before loading the new ones, > trying to load ALSA modules when ALSA is already build into the kernel, > trying to install an old ALSA with a newer kernel, etc. I compiled the whole kernel along with the modules using one compiler (using make-kpkg). The errors are on bootup. > > Please post these errors you see or we can't help. Also what soundcard > driver and ALSA version are you using? I am using the alsa that comes with the kernel and the most recent stuff from Sid. Here is one piece of the error messages. They repeat. Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.6.14. Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled. Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: l snd_oss_info_register Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_rawmidi: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_device Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_rawmidi: Unknown symbol snd_device_new Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_rawmidi: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_unregister_ioctl Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_rawmidi: Unknown symbol snd_info_create_card_entry Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_rawmidi: Unknown symbol snd_device_free Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_rawmidi: Unknown symbol snd_card_file_remove Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_rawmidi: Unknown symbol snd_info_unregister Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_rawmidi: Unknown symbol snd_device_register Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_rawmidi: Unknown symbol snd_register_device Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_rawmidi_receive Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_rawmidi_transmit Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_add Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_new Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_card_register Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_card_free Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_preallocate_pages_for_all Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_card_proc_new Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_ac97_mixer Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_ac97_bus Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_set_sync Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_new1 Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_hw_constraint_ratdens Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_card_new Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_iprintf Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_malloc_pages Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_ioctl Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_free_pages Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_set_ops Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_device_new Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_rawmidi_new Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_rawmidi_set_ops Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_preallocate_free_for_all Jan 2 19:32:01 d_baron kernel: snd_ens1371: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_hw_constraint_ratnums

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[linux-audio-user] Copyleftmedia News: The GIMP and Sex, New Madonna Remix Project contributions

by miriam clinton (iriXx)

[Apologies for the initial bounce - I'd forgotten I'd unsubscribed while travelling!] Copyleftmedia News www.copyleftmedia.org.uk/news.htm The GIMP And Sex (Seriously...) Some months ago I was encouraged by Richard M. Stallman to join the GIMP-devel, among other Free Software developer's mailing lists, to contribute and comment on its usability and functionality from a professional graphic designer's point of view. I also wrote an article for Linux User and Developer magazine (www.linuxuser.co.uk) around the same time, commending both the GIMP and Inkscape highly. Initially I was welcomed to the discussion, but when I objected to the posting of a half-naked female body to demonstrate a bug when any other photo could have substituted, I was chastised like a child, accused of 'policing the mailing list' and called a 'religious freak', among other names, by the list admin, when my request was perfectly reasonable and was met with reasonable discussion and eventually dropped by other list members. It is noteworthy that the only other female developer on the list does not download binaries and asked me to send her a link to the photographs. An article follows on the 'little boys clubs' that F/OSS development lists seem to degenerate into - or even 'little girls clubs' in the case of Linuxchix, a list which I briefly joined, and left due to its exclusion of and chastisement of men. The final straw which lead me to publicise what could be considered a minor issue was the list-admin's accusation that my contributions as a writer and tester were of far less value than that of a coder. This was in stark contrast to my initially warm welcome to the list a year ago, and to the more mature attitude of Bryce Harrington's Inkscape team, whom I shall be rejoining and supporting. It seems a little maturity is needed in the Free Software community - Harrington certainly separates the boys from the men in this regard. The Inkscape project has the potential to far supersede the once-famous GIMP even if only due to its versatility, and the attitude of those on-list has always been welcoming to testers of usability and interface design - an area of considerable importance if one is to attract users of Adobe and Macromedia packages towards Free Software. The Madonna Remix Project Lives On A couple of new remixes have been posted to the News page, one by Torben Müller, and another site (unrelated to the project) by Marcin Dolecki. Regards, mC~ -- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -Voltaire ~ www.iriXx.org ~ www.copyleftmedia.org.uk ~

18 years, 11 months

[linux-audio-user] [ANN] ICMC 2006 Call for Works

by Ge Wang

Greetings (and apologies for cross-posting). ICMC 2006 shall take place in New Orleans this November. Hope to see you there. Thanks! ----- Forwarded message from park(a)tulane.edu ----- Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:41:57 -0600 From: park <park(a)tulane.edu> Reply-To: park <park(a)tulane.edu> Subject: ICMC 2006 Call for Works Call for Participation: International Computer Music Conference 2006 Tulane University and the Newcomb Department of Music are proud to announce the open call for submissions to the ICMC 2006. The conference will be held on the Tulane University campus in beautiful New Orleans, Louisiana, USA from November 6 - 11, 2006 and will be a historic collaboration between ICMA and SEAMUS (Society of Electro Acoustic Music in the US). The nature of the collaboration is part of a larger theme of the 2006 ICMC conference - ?multidimensionality.? It is our hope to represent the multidimensional and multi-faceted field of computer music today through concerts, installations, paper sessions, poster sessions, demonstrations, workshops, and exhibitions as well as many other special events and many giveaways and prizes. We are currently finishing up the official webpage with detailed information regarding the ICMC 2006 which will be up early January 2006. Hurricane Katrina and Rita have brought much destruction to New Orleans but we are eager to move forward and excited about the future of New Orleans and hope that you will be part of this great conference and great city! Laissez les bon temps roulez! Sincerely, Tae Hong Park, ICMC 2006 Conference Chair SUMMARY OF DEADLINE DATES: -------------------------- - Music, video art, and installations: March 4, 2006 - Papers, demonstrations, and posters: March 4, 2006 - Workshop and roundtables proposals: April 7, 2006 - Exhibition proposals: April 7, 2006 CALL FOR MUSIC, VIDEO ART, AND INSTALLATIONS: --------------------------------------------- ICMC 2006 invites the submission of music, video art, and installations reflecting the multidimensional aspect of computer music today. We will have at least 8 channels for sound projection and a number of instrumental resources available on site including a select number of traditional Korean instruments. Please refer to conference webpage for details (webpage will be up early 2006). Submission Information For detailed submission information, please consult the music submission instructions page (webpage will be up early January 2006). Deadlines Works must be submitted online by March 4, 2006. Applicants will be notified of results by June 5, 2006. Submission formats To be announced on webpage. CALL FOR PAPERS, POSTERS, AND DEMONSTRATIONS: --------------------------------------------- ICMC 2006 invites the submission of papers and posters examining aesthetic, compositional, educational, musicological, scientific, and technological aspects of computer music and digital audio. The theme of this year's conference is multidimensionality and we especially encourage submissions on this topic. Submission Information For detailed submission information, please consult the paper submission instructions page (webpage will be up early January 2006). We have provided templates in LaTeX and Word formats. To help ensure consistency in the printed conference proceedings, the technical committee will only review submissions that use the ICMC 2006 template. Proposed and final papers must be submitted through the website. We unfortunately cannot accept printed papers via postal mail. Deadlines Papers must be submitted online by March 4th, 2006. Applicants will be notified of acceptance or rejection of papers, posters and demonstration proposals by May 28th, 2006. For accepted submissions, the final deadline for submission of camera-ready versions is June 23rd, 2006. Submission Types Short Paper (4 pages maximum in Proceedings, 20 min. presentation) Long Paper (8 pages maximum in Proceedings, 30 min. presentation) Poster (4 pages maximum in Proceedings) Studio Report (4 pages maximum in Proceedings, 20 min. presentation) Demonstration Notes (1 page in Proceedings, 45 min. demonstration) Authors who submit short or long papers can also suggest demonstrating their work if appropriate. A separate submission of a demonstration note is not required in this case. Submitted papers, posters, and demonstrations may be accepted in a different format than originally submitted. Content Areas include but not limited to: Digital Audio Signal Processing Sound Synthesis and Analysis Music Analysis Music Information Retrieval Representation and Models for Computer Music Artificial Intelligence and Music Languages for Computer Music Printing and Optical Recognition of Music Mathematical Music Theory Psychoacoustics, Music Perception and Cognition Acoustics of Music Aesthetics, Philosophy and Criticism of Music History of Electroacoustic Music Computer Systems in Music Education Composition Systems and Techniques Interactive Performance Systems Software and Hardware Systems General and Miscellaneous Issues in Computer Music Studio Reports CALL FOR ROUNDTABLE PROPOSALS: ------------------------------ ICMC 2006 invites the submission of roundtable proposals to explore current and emerging issues in computer music today. We are looking for topics including issues addressing the friction between music and technology, culture, society, unsolved problems in computer music, future directions, pedagogy, performance, and relevant topics. Submission Information Proposal should include title, objective, extended abstract including a summary of the topics to be covered, names and affiliations of up to a total of 5 panelists (this includes the panel chair) who have made a commitment to participate, short summary of panelists? position statements, and proposed panel duration. Please see website for details (website will be up early January 2006). Deadlines Proposals must be submitted online by April 7, 2006 Submission Information For detailed submission information, please consult the roundtable submission instructions page (webpage will be up early January 2006). CALL FOR WORKSHOP PROPOSALS: ---------------------------- ICMC 2006 invites the submission of workshop proposals. The workshops should ideally include a combination of practice and theory. Submission Information For detailed submission information, please consult the workshop submission instructions page (webpage will be up early January 2006). Deadlines April 7, 2006 CALL FOR EXHIBITIONS: --------------------- ICMC 2006 invites the submission of exhibition proposals to showcase latest products relevant to computer and electronic music, digital audio and related fields including software, hardware, educational tools, performance interfaces, and other products of interest. Submission Information For detailed submission information, please consult the exhibition submission instructions page (webpage will be up early January 2006). Deadlines April 7, 2006 CONTACT INFORMATION: --------------------- Tae Hong Park, Conference Chair, park(a)tulane.edu Paul Botelho, Music Chair, pbotelho(a)princeton.edu Georg Essl, Paper Co-Chair, Georg.Essl(a)telekom.de Ichiro Fujinaga, Paper Co-Chair, ich(a)music.mcgill.ca ----- End forwarded message -----

18 years, 11 months

Re: [linux-audio-user] Copyleftmedia News: The GIMP and Sex, New Madonna Remix Project contributions

by miriam clinton (iriXx)

>Rob wrote: > > > I myself am gay, and have no interest in objectifying women at > >all (except when they ask for my help doing it to themselves... >corset shopping, accessorizing, et al.) Nonetheless, I also >think that anyone who objects to images of a partially clothed >woman (or man) in a visual arts context has no place working in >a visual arts context. I hate to think how you'd respond to >actual nudes. > > The photographs were not at all in an artistic context - it is a pity that I have lost them, as they would prove the point of my argument; the lack of maturity within the F/OSS community. The photographs were pure soft-porn, there was no art involved. I am a trained artist and much in support of the artistic portrayal of the human body. I am not in support of the denegration of either sex for the purpose of pornography. >Regardless, as soon as your medium-critical posts exceeded your >on-topic and helpful posts as a "writer and tester", you became >a liability to that list. > LOL. I made one small request regarding the appropriate use of photography when a facial portrait could have demonstrated the same bug. I made one further post defending my position, in which I stated that I would leave th discussion at that point. It is the overreaction of the list-admin, his childish attitude, and the immaturity of the F/OSS community which I address. I would suggest that you might also not wish our community to be so poorly represented by > Not being a member, I couldn't say >whether that happened before or after the admin lashed out at >you, but if it was before, you probably deserved to be moderated >if not chastised. > > It all happened in his private posts to me - I made no provocation whatsoever, just a simple request. What I quoted in my article was his quite unnecessary, and unprovoked overreaction. I am hazarding a guess that the list-admin is extremely young, and cannot moderate a list in a mature fashion but instead responded to a polite request by lashing out at me. He may disagree with my request, as others did, and I accept their disagreement; what I write of is their lack of maturity in posting soft-porn to a devel list, and his ridiculous and unprovoked attack. The reason I write about this at all? GIMP is a major representation of the GNU/Linux platform - it is essential that maturity is maintained among our community if we are ever to reach mainstream distribution. One might note that Windows and Mac users are at all times treated in a professional manner - perhaps as support staff would lose their jobs if they lashed out at customers or packaged their software with soft-porn models on the cover. >I'm not sure whether you came here looking for support, or to >chastise us, or just to troll, but rest assured that we have no >naked or partially clothed people here.... at least, not that >you can see. > > Neither, I regularly post updates regarding my Copyleftmedia project to this list, although it has been some time since the last. List readers may well have been interested in the continuation of the Madonna Remix Project, which is on-topic for this list and has been followed keenly by many list subscribers. I am intrigued as to why a news update has caused such a stir; judging by the two responses I have received from this particular list, in contrast to DMCA-discuss, Pho, C-FIT Community and the other F/OSS campaign lists to which I posted this message, neither of you have bothered to read the article and have proven yourselves to be exactly the type of coders lacking in maturity of which I wrote. It intrigues me as to how oversensetive you are in your responses as well - anyone who read the actual article would have seen that it neither defends the demeaning of women by men, men by women, or same-sex. A reader from DMCA-discuss responded that my story described perfectly the reasons why F/OSS will never reach the mainstream - in his words, the community must quite simply "grow up". /This/, and not a knee-jerk commentary on so-called 'sexism', was the focus of the article - the immaturity of a list admin towards a simple point made on-list, discussed briefly and dropped. The fact that the list-admin could not handle very mild debate over what was indeed an unnecessary use of photography (a portrait of a face could suffice) proved his immaturity and poor representation for a major piece of software in the F/OSS community. This list-admin, if he does not address his attitude towards subscribers and inability to cope with debate, will continue to work to the detriment of F/OSS software. Is that not of concern to us as GNU/Linux users? mC~ -- www.iriXx.org www.copyleftmedia.org.uk

18 years, 11 months

[linux-audio-user] maudio 1814

by Noah Roberts

Does anyone know if the maudio firewire soundcard with model # 1814 works in Linux? They have them at the local music store and they look decent.

18 years, 11 months

[linux-audio-user] how to record on sb live (low recording levels)

by Erik Steffl

I've been playing with it quite a lot but it's pretty elusive, can somebody shed som light on how to record using sb live platinum liveDrive (front panel). I can get it to record but the levels are very low (vu meter goes to about 25%), even when I put the slider to max. I have the same problem with mic and phono pre-amp. at one point I was able to make it record with 'normal' loudness so I guess it's possible but I wasn't able to figure out how I did it that one time :-( I was using alsmixer to set the recording levels and sources (was playing with both capture and playback controls) Not sure if it matter but when I set playback for liveDrive line2 the output goes to speakers with 'normal' loudness (i.e. a lot louder than what is being recorded). this is on debian unstable using alsa in kernel 2.6.11, /proc/asound/version says Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.8 (Thu Jan 13 09:39:32 2005 UTC). any ideas? TIA! erik

18 years, 11 months

[linux-audio-user] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Copyleftmedia News: The GIMP and Sex, new Madonna Remixes

by miriam clinton (iriXx)

Apologies for the second Madonna Remix link, which I have now removed in keeping with my integrity as regards photography and the ethics of F/OSS/CC advocacy. I had not checked the site, and some of the photography is quite obscene to say the least. Torben's remix, however, is excellent :) mC~ -- 99% of aliens prefer Earth --Eminem www.iriXx.org www.copyleftmedia.org.uk

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Linux-audio-user January 2006