On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 04:13:13PM -0700, Justin
Smith wrote:
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Fons
Adriaensen<fons(a)kokkinizita.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 03:25:39PM -0700, Justin Smith wrote:
>
>> Try running a white noise source through the filter, then
>> look at the spectral graph output in your favorite spectrum
>> analysis program. Since white noise should have a flat
>> spectrum, any peaks and valleys in the output are those of
>> the filter.
>
> For a more 'musical' analysis, use Japa. It has either
> a logarithmic or perceptual frequency scale. Pink noise
> source is built-in, and if you set the analyser response
> to 'Proportional' it will show a flat spectrum for pink
> noise. It can also show the difference between two spectra,
> e.g. input and output of a filter, and this produces much
> more stable displays when using a noise test signal.
>
> For the filter, you could try on of the four Moog VCF
> plugins I wrote years ago. Apart from the resonant
> lowpass they will also add some juicy distortion at
> high levels, as does the original Moog filter and
> probably all real analog Wah processors. Frequency
> control is logarithmic, which is probably what you
> want, and there are separate control inputs to
> set the static frequency and resonance and their
> modulation. One problem could be that the modulation
> inputs require audio rate signals (the filter were
> designed for use in AMS) but that can be changed
> easily if you want. If you want to play with them
> use AMS.
>
> But Japa and the filters to be found at
>
http://www.kokkinizita.net/linuxaudio/downloads
>
> The filter plugins are in the MCP set.
>
> --
> FA
I used japa years ago, but forgot its name, thanks for this
excellent piece of software, which I am excited to have
rediscovered.
Mille grazie! I've got JAPA going on two platforms, but I've got
to apologise for being a bit dense in figuring out how to use it.
The UI looks a bit like an HP oscope, but, alas, i'm not much of
an engineer, so I'm not sure to start. Is there a quick simple
tutorial somewhere on how to use it? Anyone care to give me a few
sentences of advice?
I basically want to put white noise through some filters (prolly
using JACK-RACK), and view the frequency response of it. Looks
like JAPA already has a built-in white an pink noise generator,
which is nice. What would I connect to what (using i.e. using
jack_connect) and how would I set up the switches and control on
JAPA to do this? A simple screenshot of the correct setup might
be enough to get me going.
Thanks again!
-ken
Connect the pink output of japa to the input of the application with
the filter, connect the output of the app with the filter back into
japa, the curve you see in japa will be the frequency response of
the filter. Since japa can overlap displays, you can also try
putting some musical material through: one input straight into
japa, one through the filter first, and look at the compared
spectrums.
Another possibility would be routing the japa pink output to an
analog wah pedal, and comparing the frequency response of the
analog pedal coming back in to the digital wah emulator. Or you
could compare the spectral output of the real and digital wahs with
musical input.