On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 17:18 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Sunday 12 March 2006 15:55, Lee Revell wrote:
On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 09:11 -0800, Maluvia wrote:
Yes, and
one such absolute value is "free speech".
Lee
Tell that to David Irving.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4733820.stm
Yes, it's unfortunate that he was locked up. Most Americans are
appalled by it. Holocaust deniers are free to make idiots out of
themselves in the US.
And in any other jurisdiction for that matter. The real problem becomes
evident when these people decide to re-write history in their own
warped view and pass it off as fact without a disclaimer that it just
their view. At which point those that did not live through it, and
witness it even if only vicariously as I did at the tender age of 10 or
11, (I still can recall the pictures in the paper of the 'camps' as
they were liberated, showing near naked people who weighed maybe 60
lbs, twasn't "purty" then and sure isn't now 61 years later) and then
become confused because they have no authoritative, guaranteed correct
version of history to reference in order to be fully aware that such
shamuses are to be treated as exactly that. The rantings of a
charlatan or mental defective.
The real problem is when the people who come in contact with this sort
of writing, and because they see a conspiracy under every garbage can
lid they pass, begin to believe it, at which point no further
discussion is going to be fruitfull, rather like argueing with a
diehard PETA member.
So one may as well just shut the hell up and let darwins nature takes
its course, which it appears has occured in this instance. Unforch,
now some jurisdiction is stuck with the bills for humainly feeding,
medicating and houseing this person that I'd describe as somewhat
mentally defective and certainly is not a productive member of the
human race. Worse yet, he will probably be eventually released back
into an unwary society while his ability to contribute to the gene pool
is still intact.
Gene,
The article in question stated that the guy had said in 1989 that he
didn't believe that the Holocaust was actually as bad as portrayed and
that there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz. He said at the recent
trial that after he had read Eichmann's diary he had reformed his
opinion and now believed that the Holocaust was as portrayed by most
mainstream historians and that there were gas chambers at Auschwitz. He
seems to be one of those people who needs indisputable evidence to buy
into something. At least he is intelligent enough to look at proof and
change his opinion. Of course, they're still putting him in prison for
three years which, in my opinion, is dumb as a door knob.
--
Jan 'Evil Twin' Depner
The Fuzzy Dice
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