On Wednesday 13 February 2013 23:09:47 Al Thompson wrote:
  On 02/13/2013 02:26 PM, drew Roberts wrote:
   Well, the
Pengiun folks are breaking a law, since the things they copy
 are public domain. 
 Is it safe to assume that that is a typo and you meant they are not
 breaking the law since those works are in the public domain? 
 
 Yes, that's a safe, and correct, assumption!!!  Dang it!
   They are
not infringing any copyrights, and are not
 making use of someone's property illegally. 
 When did the book go from being the property of Dickens or his heirs to
 being the property of the public? Does a bit of land work that way? Or a
 sofa? 
 
 I would have to research Dickens' works, but I know that at one time,
 copyrights were issued for a fixed term of years (17 comes to mind), and
 could be renewed once.  Then the laws were changed so that a copyright
 was good for some number of years after an author's death. 
Right but does your land or sofa pass into the publics possession after a
period of time?
  How can the Penguin folks make money printing and
selling these books
 when any other company anywhere in the world can do the same without
 paying them a fee? 
 Maybe there's not a market for it, since the material is available for
 free. 
 
There is a market for it. I have bought such books in the past and will
happily do so again.
   From what
I've seen, people buy pirated DVDs because they either don't
 have a DVD burner, or they believe that it is safer to buy it for cash
 at some flea market where there is no paper trail leading to them. 
 So, why do they buy from the people who do not support the artists they
 like rather then from the people who do support the artists they like?
 What drives them to do this to bands they love? 
 
 They probably buy from the pirates for the reasons I stated, plus the
 fact that the pirates sell their pirated DVDs for $5.  Everyone claims
 to love a particular band and their music, but nobody considers that by
 buying the pirated DVD or CD, they are denying their "favorite artist"
 whatever income they should have gotten from the sale of that CD/DVD. 
 
And so the artist is not doing a decent job of communication with his fans
then right?
You are aware that people are rasining up front money from fans to make their
albums right?
all the best,
drew