5 Apr
2007
5 Apr
'07
4:15 a.m.
El Mié 04 Abr 2007 15:50, Charles Linart escribió:
| .>>To put it bluntly if every morning you were
| .>>being prematurely woken up by a beautiful bird song of a bird who lives
| on a .>>tree next to your window, I am pretty sure that you would
| eventually learn .>>to dislike that sound as much as you currently dislike
| the sound of your .>>alarm clock.
|
| Speaking from personal experience, I have to disagree. A life in
| harmony with nature, directed by nature's rhythm is a happy and
| beautiful life. Never been happier than during the period of my life
| when the rooster was my alarm clock -- never gotten up so early,
| either. The reason the alarm clock is so disturbing is that it throws
| us off that groove.
|
| We are a part of nature and any creative expression is a reference to
| that primal connection.
Good point, so: there is a primal connection really? Also, factories were
made by humans, and so they are a part of nature, all is part of nature...
so, factories, cities, cars, etc., have a primal connection too?
| Maybe that's why music made by human beings
| can be so pleasing compared to music made by machines. Sometimes the
| MIDIfied stuff just sounds like a big, glorified clock to me.
Jajaja, you are right, all those MIDI ringtones from celular phones too...
it's not so beautiful...
| On 4/4/07, Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico(a)vt.edu> wrote:
| > > Marcos Guglielmetti escribe:
| > > > Maybe noise is beauty... I dont know... the sounds of the ocean are
| > > > like noice, just like the wind too... I think this is beautiful,
| > > > but, because
| > >
| > > I
| > >
| > > > dont like the car's, bus, planes, trains, etc., sounds, I think
| > > > there is almost no beauty into the industrial age sounds (factories,
| > > > etc.)
| >
| > It seems likely that you don't like these sounds because of their
| > psychoacoustic association. To put it bluntly if every morning you were
| > being prematurely woken up by a beautiful bird song of a bird who lives
| > on a tree next to your window, I am pretty sure that you would
| > eventually learn to dislike that sound as much as you currently dislike
| > the sound of your alarm clock. All sounds we are aware of are simply a
| > combination of sine tones perceptible by our ears. Therefore, the only
| > difference between a sound of an ocean and a steam engine is ultimately
| > their "recipe." If you consider all sounds on this, much more equal
| > plane, then it becomes rather apparent that all sounds have beauty that
| > simply needs to be uncovered regardless of their source. This art is
| > also known as acousmatic music (or a sound removed from its source).
| >
| > > You've discovered the point. Men are capable of creating beauty but
| > > unfortunately nature is much more capable. The harder you try to
| >
| > My take is that art is our attempt at emulating nature and realizing our
| > ineptness (pointlessness?) in matching its beauty. For this reason, we
| > tend to use art as our response (perception?) to nature. In this
| > respect, man-made contraptions are just another extension of nature and
| > its laws.
| >
| > Ico
| >
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