20 Feb
2004
20 Feb
'04
4:55 a.m.
Hi,
On Friday 20 February 2004 04.18, Ken wrote:
What I really, really miss in Linux audio/midi wise,
are apps that plug-in
to the host sequencer which would be Muse, Rosegarden right now. Using
Reaktor in Sonar, which I've been playing with this winter, is so
convienent. You can have any number of Reaktor ensembles as synths or fx
all plugged into your piece, and every time you open that document up,
every little detail is restored.
I guess you haven't checked out Jack (jackit.sf.net)? Jack is the glue that
essentially makes these things possible. And on a grander scale than what is
possible in Windows.
The thing that hasn't been clearly adressed though is the "every time you open
that document up, every little detail is restored", this piece of the puzzle
is only partially solved, there will be solutions coming up though, I'm sure.
For modular syntesis as in Reaktor you should check one of the many modular
syntesizers that are available, pretty much all of them support jack. They do
not yet possess the power of Reaktor, but that's only a matter of time,
right? ;)
I don't understand why there isn't a
Ladspa synth building application.
There is, pretty much any modular synth
available now supports this. (Someone
correct me if I'm wrong, I seldomly use these things myself)
Also the soft-synth scene in
Rosegarden/Muse is extremely weak if its there at all, (Fluid)?.
Ken
That is mainly because the internal synths of MusE are (in my mind) an
evolutionary step. When session handling on jack-level is available the
internal softsynths will be pretty much obsolete.
There are a multitude of synths available that are jack enabled, they are the
future.
Don't get me wrong though, I use the internal softsynths of muse all the time
with great success, it works great. But it's not the end of the line, at
least not for me.
/Robert
ps.
btw, Peter, I liked the piece too, ego-shooter fits the bill for me to :-)
Ahh... I feel I must post some made-by-me songs soon... but...it hurts to
spill your blood on the dance floor.... Oh well, I'll work up the nerve soon.
;)
ds.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Troxler" <lt(a)westnet.com>
To: "A list for linux audio users"
<linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu>du>;
"Mark Knecht" <markknecht(a)comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: Some music made with Linux
In some ways and to some people, yes. I didn't say there was anything
wrong
On Thursday 19 February 2004 21:39, Mark Knecht
wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 17:38, Larry Troxler wrote:
> > I would say that there are more tools for MIDI processing in Linux
then
> > in Windows. In fact, that's what
drove me to move to linux many years
> > ago. Common Music, PD, Csound, KeyKit all come to mind.
> >
> > Understandably, you're probably lamenting the lack of an out-of-box
> > equivalent of whatever it is that Ntonyx does, more then a supposed
lack
lack of MIDI post-processing apps in Linux, of which
there are a
great many.
Larry Troxler
???????
Isn't what one thing does infinitely more important than how many
things can be put in a list?
??????? with that :-). You have this one particular MIDI
processing app that does
what you like, and you don't care about flexibility or the ability to do
other types of MIDI processing that you dream up. You just want to get
the job done without having to devise the algorithms yourself. You'd
rather
spend
> the time making music. That's fine; it's nice to have something out of
> the box that does the job.
>
> I only commented to make it clear that there are plenty of applications
> in Linux that let you post-process MIDI.
>
> > I don't even understand comments like this.
>
> You don't understand, or you don't agree? ;-)
>
> > Sorry, but with best regards,
> > Mark
>
> Same here!
>
> Larry