On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 07:48:00PM -1000, david wrote:
drew Roberts wrote:
On Thursday 01 July 2010 17:51:18 Joep L. Blom
wrote:
drew Roberts wrote:
Someone else having some thoughts on jazz and
copyright:
Are Bad Copyright Laws Killing Jazz And Harming Jazz Musicians?
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/0255059823.shtml
> Joep
all the best,
drew
Drew,
Thanks for your reaction but I disagree with the author of the reference
you gave me.
I don't know enough about jazz to agree with you or the author, it is
just something I cam across the other day andthen when you posted, I
went back and searched for it to let you see it.
And here I thought jazz was dying because most of it is boring and
ingrown, and the vast majority of players have become indistinguishable
from each other? ;-)
"Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny." -- Frank Zappa
Note the winking smiley. I like traditional New Orleans jazz. I like
some jazz performers, but think that most could be replaced with no one
noticing.
Heh, speaking of Zappa: "I hear the people of this land enjoy traditional jazz"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ond09u9bekA
Back to the OP: with regard to ASCAP, I joined it last year at the behest of a friend who
suggested I get my publishing situation together. If this nonsense is what ASCAP going to
use my US$25 for, I will not be renewing.
With regard to the general discussion about money, publishing, copyright, and commerce,
I've given up. I think we've made a total of US$30 gross-- altogether-- from the
CD we put out, and it cost us about US$180 in out-of-pockeet costs (studio time, mostly),
and another US$200 or so in capital equipment (headphones, headphone amps, cables, etc.,
which will get amortized over the course of other things). The studio time came out of
band funds saved up from previous gigs, and the equipment came out of my own pocket.
Working on it was a joy, but the realization that such efforts will never result in
anything more than just costing money, kind of took the wind out of it, though at least it
was POSSIBLE to do it on a shoestring, which was satisfying in and of itself.
Humans will create stuff (music, code, art) because humans like-- or NEED-- to create
stuff. The question of whether we get paid for it or not is in the hands of a system that
is largely arbitrary and often outright malicious (obvious example: corporate executives
getting paid massive sums to destroy the environment, cheat pensioners, and sack workers).
In the case of music and art-- and to get back on-topic--, corporations and organizations
like ASCAP figured out a long time how to control the means of producing and distributing
music, and for a long time they forced musicians to enrich those corporations and
organizations in order to fulfill a basic human need for expression and creation. Happily,
they are no longer in control, we have Linux and the GPL and Creative Commons and
Moore's Law and digital distribution and the internet, thus art and music and code can
be made without sucking up to the bastards. Victory for us.
But how about getting paid? That's a much bigger issue-- bigger than art or copyright.
I think our whole global economic system is broken, and I'm not surprised to see it
teetering on the brink of a total collapse that is long overdue. I often riff on the
English word "value" to indicate this disconnect, much like RMS has so often
riffed on the English word "freedom". It goes like this: definition #1 of
"value" is what something is worth in money and/or trade, something is
"valuable" in a monetary sense, but definition #2 of "value" is the
moral or social por spiritual or ethical or religious sense of "values"-- what
is important, what is right or wrong. Our economic system has disconnected the two from
each other, and has gone schizoid: what is "valuable" in an economic sense is
often the complete opposite from what is "valuable" from a moral, ethical, or
social sense. "Value" #1 is often the inverse of "Value" #2. Such a
society is bound to be ill, and such a system cannot survive.
Maybe it's just my getting older-- and my formative years occurring during the
"NO FUTURE" days of punk rock and hardcore, and the Reagan/Thatcher and the
Boesky/Milken Wall Street feeding frenzy--, but the more repetition I've seen in these
patterns of discussion over the past three or four decades, the more a nihilistic streak
comes out, and I'm tempted to wish that the whole corrupt edifice would just crumble,
already, and be done with it.
But what would take its place? That's the hard question. I predict that the next
evolutionary step would be to apply the GPL or Creative Commons to money: to run an entire
economy-- or sections of it for starters-- in an open-source kind of way. Over the past
decade I've found alternative currencies interesting, such as Timebanks, LETS, etc.,
Maybe there's some promise there, but it's still very early to say.
Sorry for the long digression there, but I guess I felt I had to say it.
-ken