1 Dec
2009
1 Dec
'09
9:25 a.m.
Sorry, accidentally hit send on the previous message...
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 07:58 -0300, robert lazarski wrote:
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Ng Oon-Ee
<ngoonee(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, I was just reading Korg's site on their Oasys. Basically what I
draw is that Karma is specific to the Oasys (which is already out of
production, and is probably way out of my budget + not available out
here in the boondocks).
Its pretty cool that there are machines to do this though. Which seems
to indicate it isn't possible or is very hard with a 'typical' Korg.
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 17:30 +0800, Ray Rashif
wrote:
Here's some quick stuff I found via google:
http://www.karma-lab.com/karma/What_Is_KARMA.html
"The technology has been designed to generate unique musical effects
in real-time, allowing effortless creation of spectacular cascades of
complex interweaving notes, techno arpeggios and effects, dense
rhythmic and melodic textures, natural sounding glissandos for
acoustic instrument programs, guitar strumming and finger-picking
simulations, random effects, auto-accompaniment effects, gliding and
swooping portamento and pitch bend effects, and new sound design
possibilities. It has been designed to be not only a valuable tool for
proficient musicians, but a means of interactively controlling music
generation for people of any level of musical skill, including no
musical knowledge whatsoever."
See also the Oasys STR-1:
http://www.korg.co.uk/products/workstations/oasys/ws_oasys6.asp
"The STR-1 Plucked String is a physical model which allows you to
pluck, strike, scrape, or otherwise "excite" the string with 16
different "pluck" types, noise, or any of the onboard or RAM-based PCM
waveforms."
Here's an Oasys demo - I'm not a guitar player so while it sounds like
decent strumming to me - ymmv :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyyQgao-UzM
Here's an M3 strumming demo, a cheaper korg model:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqTDAdQjwb8
Here's the GenoQs Octopus doing strumming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73jLyZ8e3tM
The latter is "also called "the Chris Franke" effect" , not sure why
but I'm a huge tangerine dream fan.
- R 2009/12/1 Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee(a)gmail.com>
So my basic question is, how would you produce as realistic a
guitar
strum as possible using an electronic keyboard with the
requisite sound
banks? Or should I give it up and just record my guitar
directly (neck
needs straightening...)?
Here we have that problem again. I mean, how much are we trying to
emulate things these days and getting away with it? I can tell a
sampled guitar from expensive records pretty quickly, and it annoys me
as fast. I _have_ heard _some_ with excellent results though - I
wouldn't be able to tell if I weren't informed. Those are fine, but
the majority aren't.
A keyboard cannot duplicate the feel and awesomeness of a guitarist,
his guitar, and a Neumann off-axis, period ;)
No arguments here on the last sentence. I'd still like to know how
feasible it is though, and if anyone has any pointers. Basically, to put
it very bluntly, I'm a much better keyboardist than guitarist =p.