20 Jul
2018
20 Jul
'18
2:56 a.m.
Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net> writes:
If you wish people to reply to mails of yours in a particular manner,
set the Reply-To: header for mails to that mailing list.
Then set up your Reply-To: header appropriately when mailing to the
mailing list.
Which is _exactly_ what you want.
You just said that you use a mail client to sort mails according to the
list they belong to. So set your header preferences according to the
list you send to.
On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 00:25 +0200, David Kastrup
wrote:
Sigh. Do you even read what you are replying to?
According to the list page, this is an open list. The list page states:
Linux-audio-user is not a developer list, and it
is an open list
according to its list page
Correct!
https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user which means that
posters to it are not necessarily subscribed.
Incorrect! Since it's not an open mailing list, you need to be
subscribed. Using Linux-audio-user
To post a message to all the list members, send email to
linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org.
I will not rule out that unsubscribed members are automoderated and
nobody actually ever moderates. But at least formally, this is an open
list.
I don't
"break mailing list headers". I use "Reply to All" in order
to reply to all. The alternative would be "Reply", replying to just
you. Other options would be more esoteric.
No there is the option to reply to a mailing list only. If your MUA
doesn't support it, do it manually. The mail I
replied to had the following headers regarding routing:
From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net>
To: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
That's it. No "Mail-Reply-To:", no "List-Reply-To:", no
"Reply-To:".
The mailing list itself was in the "Sender:" header, but it's not normal
to reply to that.
I receive emails from mailman mailing lists, if they are send to the
mailing list only!
Plese reply to the mailing list only.
Look, you set your mailing list options _exactly_ to "avoid duplicates"
in order _not_ to receive duplicate mails. Now you complain that you
don't receive mails sent via the mailing list. At some point of time, you need to decide
yourself.
Yes, one mail only, from the mailing list only! The way the
mailing list is set up to operate, the options for replying
with standard mail clients are either _only_ to the author of a mail, or
to "all" which includes Cc: and To: fields.
If you want everybody answering you on the list to use his mail client
in non-standard manners specifically for replying to you, you have an
upstream battle before you. Alternatively, try convincing the list
owners to set up the mailing list headers differently in order to have
them match your idea of "netiquette". That would likely involve setting
at least a "List-Reply-To:" header (which is sort of the strongest
standard hint) or a "Reply-To:" header which usually is frowned upon.
When using Evolution, a reply to all could invoke a reply to the mailing
list only. I'm using both kinds of MUAs, those that invoke a
reply to the mailing
list only by reply and those who do that by reply to all. Both have
got pitfalls when using it for different kind of mailing löist
settings and different mailing list approaches, however, regarding the
duplicated mail issue, that e.g. makes filtering by mailing list
impossible, even if I would receive both mails, just one could be
filtered.
What kind of mail client is unable to recognize a mail belongs to a
certain mailing list when the mailing list is in the Cc: field?
I am _not_ talking about multiple replies, one to list-only, one to
sender-only. Those are annoying as hell because when you don't notice,
you end up replying to the sender-only reply, ending up not sending
anything to the list.
What we are talking about here is a Reply-All where the mailing list, as
the original To: header entry, gets placed in Cc: .
Naturally, you
can yourself set a "Reply-To:
linux-audio-user(a)linuxaudio.org" header when posting to the list in
order to express your desire _never_ to receive personal replies. Or a
"List-Reply-To:" header for expressing your desire to not receive copies
for replies to the list.
This comes with pitfalls, lists could have different settings. You are simply not doing the right thing.
References?
--
David Kastrup
Since at the current point of time, the mailing
list apparently is set
up _not_ to tamper with those headers, they are free for you to
customize in order to have the default behavior of replies to the list
match your preferences even without requiring every single one of your
correspondants to hand-edit headers just for placating you.
In general, it will be a lot easier to teach your preferences to your
mail client than every single person on the mailing list.
You are doing it wrong!