13 Mar
2010
13 Mar
'10
9:52 a.m.
On Saturday 13 March 2010 06:54:09 Nils Hammerfest wrote:
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:29:29 +0100
Nils, it sounds like you are speaking about cc BY-SA. (My personal pick.)
There are others which do not behave as you describe.
BY - sort of like the the BSD. *Not copyleft* Free though.
BY-SA - sort of like the GPL. Copyleft. Free - obviously if like me you
consider copyleft a subset of Free. Something cc tends to confuse for people.
BY-NC - can do a lot of things with the music but not primarily for commercial
purposes. (Confusing.)
BY-NC-SA - Do a lot of things but use the same license.
BY-ND - You can't make any derivatives at all under this license.
Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I don't understand the CC license at all. I could dig through a jungle
> starting with google, and I *have* read and understood the basics
> regarding CC. I'm hoping for some personal experiences in plain
> language. Here goes:
Hi Atte. (and others.)
A couple of things on this first pass:
I wrote this up early last year:
drew's Guide To Choosing A License For Your Kompoz Project
http://www.kompoz.com/compose-collaborate/storyId-1027/p-drew_s_Guide_To_Ch…
And I have started and contributed to these pages at Packet In's site:
Income: http://packet-in.org/wiki/index.php?title=Income
Promotion: http://packet-in.org/wiki/index.php?title=Promotion
The income page links to:
How To Get Paid For Copyleft Art :
http://www.robmyers.org/wiki/index.php/How_To_Get_Paid_For_Copyleft_Art
Which might also be of interest.
First: CC is not CC. There is the "Name Author and Origin" switch and the
"Commercial" switch, too. The last one is important if you aim to
There are some games to be played to do an end run around any cc license and
force a statutory license on a person no matter what they want. Of course,
this same end run exists for "All rights reserved" plans as well.
1) What's the advantages for the artist with
CC compared to "All rights
reserved".
The music becomes more widespread making you more known and famous. And
because its ideologically good your reputation shifts toward the "good side
of the force" making it more likely that your music encourages the
production of Remixes. For me it exactly what I want because my marketing
strategy is "Get known, make money with live-music, merchandise and other
ways except selling the music as a product".
It also forces any people who use your music to produce
samplers/compilations, remixes etc. to release it under the same license.
This is the same Copyleft as in the GPL and ensures the freedom is granted.
2) What's the disadvantages for the artist
with CC compared to "All
rights reserved".
You cannot sell your music as a product (CDs, Digital Download, DRM)
anymore. Of course technically you could but it makes no sense if the music
is also available for free. It also forces any people who use your music to
produce samplers, remixes etc. to release it under the same license. This
is the same Copyleft as in the GPL and makes it unlikely that you will get
you music on any commercial samplers/compilation, except you grant special
licenses.
3) What's the advantages for the consumer
with CC compared to "All
rights reserved".
In reality its basically means its free of cost, you can share it and its
all legal. You can do whatever you want with the music, remix it sell the
remix (if the license is *-sa) etc.
I assume there's no disadvantages for the
customer with CC...
You cannot just take the CC-music and produce a closed, copyleft-free new
derived work. But well, this is not "consumer"... if there is a border
between consumer and producer anymore.
Nils
http://www.denemo.org
> Thanks in advance for any input.
>
> --
> Atte
>
> http://atte.dk http://modlys.dk
all the best,
drew