On 11/17/2017 11:51 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
David Kastrup <dak-mXXj517/zsQ(a)public.gmane.org>
writes:
Robin Gareus
<robin-+VlDMftONaMdnm+yROfE0A-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg(a)public.gmane.org>
writes:
On 11/17/2017 07:11 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
Robert Edge
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writes:
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er7OeIFALN8
Ah, so "(region name)/edit/make mono regions" does not actually edit the
region. Nor does it make it mono. Nor does it create mono tracks. But
it adds two mono regions to the _region_ _list_ (which is rather
inconspicuous and somewhere else on the screen, by default not at all)
from where you can then fill newly created mono tracks. It doesn't
bother mentioning what it does in something akin to Emacs' echo area,
though: "copied mono regions to region list" would have been a great
hint. It doesn't have some mouse-over help on "make mono regions"
either. You arr on your own guessing what happens.
Sorry, but that's _way_ worse in discoverability than current-day
Emacs. Certainly nothing you could _discover_ on a demo. Either you
know or you don't.
Why even bother? just use the stereo panner and pan it all the way to
the left or right?
Yeah, that gave me the correct left microphone on the left. And the
correct right microphone on the left. At equal gain.
As I said: there was not enough time to fiddle this in a strictly
time-constrained demo.
At any rate: we had already established that I am stupid: otherwise the
mics would not have been crosswired. The problem is that you need to be
really smart to figure out from scratch how to correct this with Ardour,
and there wasn't enough time and attention span to be really smart here.
If you need a mailing list for using an application, there is no way to
improvise actually simple stuff under realtime constraints like in a
talk.
I mean, fine, Ardour is great for making fun at others and
fingerpointing and feeling superior. And there is some appeal in that.
But frankly, I'm too old to be using software for that reason.
I had no such intention.
Also please don't take it personally, like many authoring tools Ardour
has a steep learning curve. You also would not be the first sound
engineer that wrongly connects some mics..
I was just honestly curious why you wanted to separate a stereo track
instead of using the panner or port-connections.
Many users want the other way: Combine a two mono tracks to a stereo
track for shared editing or FX (and there's likewise no simple way to do
that in the editor alone, the tracks need to be a bounced).
Track-groups are the preferred way for this for edit operations.
subgroup-busses for FX.
ciao,
robin