12 Dec
2007
12 Dec
'07
3:41 a.m.
Folderol wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:29:56 -0000 (WET)
"Rui Nuno Capela" <rncbc(a)rncbc.org> wrote:
I find it rather interesting that since I've been recording MIDI
keyboard input to sequencers - I have to turn on a metronome and really
really really concentrate to make notes land on the allotted beat. Left
to my own, my rhythms change, what I might have heard (while playing) as
4 8th notes was actually 5 8ths played in the same amount of time, etc.
My classical piano teacher once told me that I had a natural syncopation
to my playing. Took much work to get that under control for classical music!
Then I learned a Chopin composition, and my teacher told me that in some
passages the only time it was important for both hands to be in time
together was that they both reached the end at the same time. ;-)
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
On Tue, December 11, 2007 14:58, Dave Phillips
wrote:
I can't help thinking this just replaces one form of mechanisation with
another. Even when recording step-time I have all forms of grid locking
turned *off*. Notes are very rarely actually on the allotted beat. Found on a Cakewalk docs site :
*Groove Quantize*
Groove Quantize allows you to change the "feel" of an existing
performance. This is especially handy for spicing up step-entered MIDI
data or performances that need tight, groovin' timing. The best way to
learn how to use Groove Quantize is by experimentation. Other than the
Groove Source itself, the settings that will effect Groove Quantize the
most are the Resolution, Strength Duration, Strength Time, and Strength
Velocity.
So now we all know.
yes, i've used cakewalk pro audio "groove-quantize" midi effect
once
before. the way i understand it, you first preset an existing midi pattern
as your chosen groove style, or so-called. groove-quantization is then the
process in which an arbitrary midi sequence is quantized or made more or
less similar to that preset style pattern in regard to onsets, velocity,
duration, etc. in short, to have similar "feel".
otoh, there's also another midi effect, called "swing-quantize", being
fundamentally different. here, iirc, the quarters are moved back and
forward to sound like triplets and/or vice-versa.
it is my understanding (and i can be wrong) that most hardware like the
akai mpcs, the roland grooveboxes et al. has it called "groove-quantize"
but in fact is a form of "swing-quantize", at least according to
cakewalk's definition.
cheers