28 Aug
2010
28 Aug
'10
11:37 a.m.
Niels Mayer wrote:
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:58 AM, david
<gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
For Skype/GoogleVoice consumers, they're more likely to be running
Ubuntu than Fedora or RHEL. So, yes, I think Fedora/RHEL is "fringe" for
this particular market.
Don't blame Google for that. On all five of
the computers around here, ALSA sets up the PC speaker as an input source!
Skype beta for Linux (2.1.0.47), for example, uses, or works well
alongside the phonon framework. That way, when i setup
SystemSettings->ComputerAdministration->Multimedia->{AudioOutput,AudioCapture}->Communication->LogitechUSBHeadset
, skype ends up using the headset. And if some other app, like
google-chrome&voice are hogging the headset even when not actively
using them, skype will automatically go on and use the next configured
device. If that "device" happens to be Jackd, then phonon will do the
right thing and actually invoke jackd with all the right arguments. (I
was surprised by the level of "magical" Jack integration in phonon).
No such luck with either google-chrome or this new google-voice thing.
I might end up giving konqueror a go since at least it will use phonon
to connect the browser to the audio devices.
But all five of the computers here run Debian and
have for many years. Outside a few folk on LAU, I don't know anyone who runs Fedora.
So, clearly, you are a fringe-case. ;-)
Seems like Fedora is preferred by those that are professional computer
scientists or engineers, whereas Ubuntu is targeted at consumers.
Likewise, since Fedora eventually becomes Red Hat Enterprise Linux,
there's a good chance your financial institutions, telecom companies,
online web services, etc are actually using product versions of
"Fedora 10" or "Fedora 11." How exactly is that "fringe" ?
As to why there might be Fedora users on LAU, consider
the existence
of a major repository of Pro Audio/Video software (and realtime
patches of current fedora kernels)
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ as well as the fact
that ALSA creator http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaroslav_Kysela works
there as well as Pulseaudio creator
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/LennartPoettering .
I know. CCRMA software is the only reason I considered Fedora for my
little effectbox.
Maybe the ALSA creator can explain why it always considers a PC speaker
to be INPUT?
I intensely dislike Pulseaudio, so I don't consider its creator a point
in any distro's favor. ;-)
Also, ignoring the entire RPM community doesn't
just ignore Fedora, it
also ignores http://www.opensuse.org/ a major distro with backing from
Novell and AMD. (Which might be the real reason for making RPM second
fiddle at Google -- the fact that Suse Linux Enterprise and Desktop
provides competition to Google's main business: stealing all of
Microsoft's Office and .Net customers:
http://techrights.org/2009/03/24/sled-11-is-about-mono-tech/ ).
Could be true. Don't know much about OpenSUSE, but if it's money is
coming from server rooms, it's not likely to be used by consumers of
Skype/GoogleVoice.
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
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