On Wednesday 28 May 2008 10:56, Pieter Palmers wrote:
Loki Davison wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Al Thompson <biggles58(a)sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
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> From: Loki Davison <loki.davison(a)gmail.com>
> To: schoappied <schoappied(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: Al Thompson <biggles58(a)sbcglobal.net>et>;
> Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:04:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [LAU] hardware: recording voice and acc. guitar
>
>> wow. This is so wrong it hurts... You say phantom power not possible
>>
> >from a pci slot or computer power supply but with usb mixer? ARRG! USB
>>
>> is a great way to plug in your mouse. For audio, go pci, or if you
>> can't got pci, firewire or pcmcia.
>>
>> 10 channel in 14 out. and yes, to Al, ......... phantom power on both
>> mic pre's from a pci card! wow.... like standard... The linux mixer
>
> Just out of curiosity, where is the 48V coming from? There is no 48V
> available internally. There is 12V, if you want to limit yourself to
> AKG and Shure mics, but I wouldn't want to draw that much current from a
> computer supply.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC-DC_converter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boost_converter
How do you think a bus powered USB device does it? USB bus power is 5V.
>> usb = crap. Oh, just in case you missed
it. I think usb is a bad
>> choice.
>
> What's your dislike of USB? You can do 2x2 even over USB 1.1. Until
> the latest version of the Firewire standard, it couldn't hold a candle
> to USB.
my firewire alarm triggered here...
What latest version are you talking about? The 1995 version (400Mbit/s)
can handle >200 channels at 48k, providing both phase and rate accuracy
for all channels throughout the system. There is not a doubt about the
fact that FireWire is technically superior to USB in general, and
definitely regarding audio.
Sounds great, but where can I find a firewire interface that will let me
record 24+ tracks at once. I am in the market for one if my pocket can handle
the cost... (This is in no way related to to USB comparison...)
A more recent version (1394b-2002) has commercially available products
at 800Mbit/s (400 channels), and specified up to 3.2Gbit/s.
Let me give you some arguments pro firewire:
* globally available clock (relative AND absolute timing)
* guaranteed bandwidth
* (1394b) support for redundant connections
* (1394b) optical fibre support
I could go on for a while, but it's not really worth it. The only
'superiority' of USB is in the cost department.
Greets,
Pieter
all the best,
drew