29 Nov
2004
29 Nov
'04
10:11 p.m.
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 02:42, Ryan Gallagher wrote:
How many sold units per year do you estimate for a company such as RME
or MAudio? It's not fresh bread, the numbers are pretty low, the prices
pretty high.
http://www.audioscience.com/internet/news/press20000.htm
I don't think so.
On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 00:55 +0100, Marek Peteraj
wrote:
Can i see the numbers? :)
Can't tell really but the activity on rme forums is comparable to LAU.
Which would mean that they have 1200 customers. Certainly not, but it's
also not 500.000 customers, at least i doubt it.
Also, it's digidesign. And 200.000 other companies that sell audio hw.
Very tough competition. Compared to linux audio where there's almost no
competition.
On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 20:14, Ryan Gallagher
wrote:
Linux users are still a minority and linux audio users
Come on... reality check. The mail lists for
Avid->DigiDesign->Pro-Tools alone dwarf LAU. an even smaller one, downright miniscule. We
should try to stay "real"
in estimating our tiny presence in this huge industry.
Ok let's get this straight. ;)
(why do we always underestimate ourselves)
The linux-audio market isn't a fly-fart in sulfur mine to these 2nd tier
companies (m-audio et. al.). They're competing for crumbs from the
giant's (digidesign) lap anyway.
This is no evidence to me. That they don't realise it is just their
fault. And it's our fault that we don't realise it too.
Suppose that each city and perhaps a fairly large
town in the US and
Europe has got at least *one* linux audio user.
Likely? I think so :)
How much users would that be? Hundreds? More?
Hundreds. And the money we (LAU's) spend on audio gear in a year per
company wouldn't pay the salary of the person who pushes "send" on the
"we don't plan support" emails for a month. Now let's look at the "tiny" linux
audio market. Ask everyone what unit
he has got. I bet it's going to be 2/3rd RME 1/3 Maudio.
I'd venture to guess that if EVERY LAU signed a petition to support only
one company in return for drivers/support... it'd mean nothing. To be
honest, I'm grateful for any "support" official or otherwise we get.
IMO it's a cheritible act for these profit driven (not meant in a
negative way) manufacturers to spend/risk revenue on what is still
largely a hobby OS (speaking of linux desktop/audio here only).
I'm only grateful for the support audioscience is giving and any other
such support.
Bottom line, these companies are not stupid. They
know where the money
is, and it ain't on LAU. If it were, they'd be here too.
As said. No evidence. They would have to show me a linux audio market
survey. Which i bet they don't have at all. They don't even know the
current state of linux audio. They don't give a flying f*.
Marek