14 Jan
2010
14 Jan
'10
1:44 a.m.
Ken Restivo wrote:
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 05:53:10PM -0500, frank
pirrone wrote:
Interesting, but that having been said, give me Miles and Trane and
modal explorations any day...
Frank
fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
Good call. The II is used in jazz and gospel, IIRC. Zappa did some with it too: the Inca
Roads guitar solo vamp is I-II.
Rick Wright was the only original member of the Pink Floyd who had formal music
schooling, and he was also a jazz fan. David Gilmour might have had some training; I
don't remember.
To drift even farther off topic: I've noticed that people who do not have formal
music schooling tend towards chromaticism, and make it work in interesting ways. Speaking
of Pink Floyd, Syd Barrett didn't have any music schooling, and "Interstellar
Overdrive" is highly chromatic. As are a lot of Radiohead songs-- no music school for
Thom Yorke (Jonny Greenwood was the only member who had music training). I was stunned
some years ago to find out that the progression of the verses of "Morning Bell"
was A minor to A MAJOR. It totally works. Also, a friend and I learned "Pyramid
Song" years ago, charted it out, and discovered it's actually in 4/4: the phrases
are highly syncopated but they add up to 8 (IIRC) bars of 4.
The guys I'm working with do lots of chromatic stuff, but it doesn't sound
avante-garde at all, it sounds like funk/rock, which is what it is.
Maybe one of the Pink Floyd members decided to just throw something different in there,
randomly, just for fun.
-ken
Hello musicians,
Pink Floyd's 'Atom Heart Mother' ends with two repetitions
of the main theme, with full choir, brass and everything.
The bass is:
E G F C, E G F C, E G A B, E G F# ?????, E G F C etc.
It's the F# ????? - the surprising modulation just before
the theme repeats - that I'm after. Most PF harmony is quite
straightforward but this one defeats me... Anyone knows this
chord progression ?
TIA,
Wouldn't that be in the key of E, Fons? If so the F# is the II chord,
which would typically resolve to the IV, or B7 in that key. That
wouldn't be a modulation, it would be a "turn-around," and especially so
since the progression continues on with another E.