On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 21:00 +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
I'm on a ardour 2.8.11-setup and I'm
looking for the best possible limiter.
Rest of my plugin-use is linuxdsp and some calf, so I need a good limiter to
be able to crank it all up a notch compressionwise. I'm currently using TAP
Scalinglimiter, which is the best one I've found yet that dont give me
zippernoise etc, but I can't push that limiter as far as I want without
artifacts in the sound etc.
Do you guys have some tips? I'd be most grateful!
Every time I read a post like this (no offense intented to the
poster), there is this desire creeping up my back to write a
decent peak limiter, or just release the things I already have.
What stops me is the simple fact that by doing that I'd be
contributing to the IMHO completely misguided and even stupid
fashion of increasing the apparent loudness of recordings by
any means, at the expense of sound quality. Simple fact is this:
if it isn't loud enough, turn up the volume. The result will be
vastly superior to what you can achieve by squeezing dynamics
to death.
Regarding ScalingLimiter, I wonder how many peope are actually
aware of what it is doing. Which is to measure the peak level
of segments delimited by zero crossings and then apply a
constant gain factor to each segment to adjust its peak level
to close to the maximum. The idea seems to be that changing gain
at a zero crossing doesn't introduce distortion. Which is wrong,
it does generate gross amounts of intermodulation distortion,
just having less HF energy than when switching gain at random
points. This makes a complete joke of whatever follows in the
reproduction chain - you could as well use the worst amplifier
(in terms of IM distortion) you can find and things wouldn't
sound any different.
Ciao,
I agree with Fons, in that we should not be crushing recordings and
over-compressing them.
But having said that, a limiter is a very useful and necessary tool at
times. I would love to see what sort of limiter that a talented
programmer like Fons offers.
In lieu of that, Steve Harris has a fast-look-ahead-limiter which is
good. It's in JAMIN, and also available as a separate stand-alone
plugin.