17 Sep
2008
17 Sep
'08
4:44 p.m.
Hi,
Am Mittwoch, 17. September 2008 schrieb Roberto Gordo Saez:
I never said that fluidsynth isn't free. I only said that both gig and sf2 are
not free formats. (free as in defined by the fsf (could have picked any other
real-free-organization))
If your point is the implementation, then you might be right. If your point is
to be "free", your point is invalid. sf2, gig, doc (even pdf afaik) are not
free formats even though they might have free implementations.
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 07:02:34PM +0200, Arnold
Krille wrote:
Be my guest! :-)
Note that I am not for gig and against sf2 (or
vice versa), I just see
flaws in your logic...
OK, I'll show you the flaws in your logic, then ;-)
Most problably there is no flaws in either logic. Your
priorities and
mine are just different. That's all... though there is at least one
objective mistake in your email I want to politely show you.
Apart from my last paragraph (about using what suites best) I never talked
about my priorities.
But I would be really curious which other objective mistakes (apart from the
ls-stuff) you found in my mail.
You want to
use sf2 for reasons of freedom? sf2 is not free as in
defined-by-the-fsf. Probably the same as gig (and gig _has_ a free
implementation, just use an old linuxsampler with plain gpl)...
And why do you
think fluidsynth not free? It is included in Debian
and other license-picky distibutions. It is a free implementation of
the sf2 format. Linuxsampler is a different issue. Some time ago
I talk with Brett Smith (he is in the FSF, for license questions)
about the LinuxSampler license, and decided to avoid linuxsampler,
unfortunately.
There is no old linuxsampler with plain GPL, I'm afraid that you are
misinformed in this point.
So probably this was only triggered by the public announcement of the
statement...
But: I just checked my local tarball of 0.5.1 and while the README states the
non-commercial exception, neither the COPYING-file with the license text nor
the source-files itself have that exception. But I don't want to restart
these old discussions...
If you want a
_really_ free format you _have_ to use specimen or
something else which not only has free implementations (heck, even ms
word has free implementations) but also an open format.
I have many arguments
against this paragraph, but I think they are off
topic... so instead I prefer to summarize as: just use ms word format
if you want to do so :-)
SF2 format is openly documented (OK, the official docummentation is far
from perfect, I know), but my main point is the implementation. I will
support the gig format with a free implementation (a free
implementation can also be seen as documentation). I will be happy to switch to gig format as soon as one
free
implementation appears.
Fair enough.
Maybe someone should start freesampler... ;-)
Arnold
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