that's what i'm thinkin - I don't care i'll rebuild - but I do want to
know
if anyone has some advice on how I might be able to at least recover some
data - I have some backups, some stuff can be rebuilt, but there are like
four tracks in my latest ardour project that I would LOVE to get rescued...
hmmm...maybe DOS will see it?  oh jeeze.
I'm wondering too HOW the harddrive hosed itself, because it's pretty
frickin new (got it last fall) - I did move though - so maybe it bumped - or
maybe ardour zapped it *laugh* damn you Paul! ;)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jan Depner" <eviltwin69(a)cableone.net>
To: "A list for linux audio users" <linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Ardour Crash + can't boot
  Man, that doesn't sound good.  I believe at this
point that you are the
 proud owner of a smoked system.  The disk may not be physically bad but
 it sounds like it might be.  Maybe someone else has more insight into
 this though.
 Jan
 On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 18:07, Aaron Trumm wrote:
 > Well - interesting.
 >
 > Thanks to these replies, I learned to use "linux single" at that boot:
 > prompt
 >
 > That got me in a shell, along with this error:
 >
 > The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
 > filesytem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 
filesystem
  > (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the
superblock is corrupt, 
and
  > you might try running e2fsck with an alternate
superblock:
 >  e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
 >
 > fsck.ext3: Filesystem revision too high while trying to open /dev/hda2
 >
 > eek, I say.  so I said oh alright and entered:
 > e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda2
 >
 > and got the same superblock error
 >
 > so I referred to Jan's email and typed:
 > fsck /dev/hda2
 >
 > and got the same superblock error
 >
 > so I said hmm and tried:
 > fsck /dev/hda
 >
 > and got a similar superblock error only it mentioned ext2   - odd?
 >
 >
 > and that's where I'm stuck currently - worried that I've got a hardware
 > malfunction :)
 >
 >
 > here's the caveat:  last night before hearing back from anyone, I, in my
 > grand wise impatience, booted with the red hat cd and entered the rescue
 > mode.  there, per instructions I found in an archived email, I attempted 
to
  > mount hda2 and it said the device doesn't
exist.  eek.  so then, in my 
GRAND
  > GRAND wise impatience, I decided to let Red Hat
CD install a new OS, 
while
  > keeping all partitions and just using free space.
during this install
 > process, I got error messages while reading hda - i hobbled through the
 > process, let it reboot, and came out with the same kernel panic, which 
led
  > me to believe I was having a harddisk screw up.
then I went to bed and 
got
  > up and tried the above.
 >
 > Aaron will be backing up more often from this day forward. :)
 >
 > ideas?
 >
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Jan Depner" <eviltwin69(a)cableone.net>
 > To: "A list for linux audio users"
<linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu>
 > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 3:34 AM
 > Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Ardour Crash + can't boot
 >
 >
 > > If you boot in single user mode you should only get that if you're
 > > trying to fsck the root partition.  AFAIK you kinda have to ignore it 
in
  > > that case.  I don't know what recourse
you have in the case of a hosed
 > > root partition.  I've never had a problem with fsck'ing the root
 > > partition though (that covers about 16 years of UNIX sysadmin (and 11 
of
    Linux)).  Of course, it could blow up on me the next
time I have to do
 it ;-)  Man, you're up early today Ron.
 Jan
 On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 05:22, R Parker wrote:
  Jan,
 Do you ignore the warning that running fsck on a
 mounted partition can cause serious damage? I used to
 ignore it and never had a problem but as my collection
 of valuable material grows I become more paranoid. I
 imagine Aaron will see that message.
 ron
 --- Jan Depner <eviltwin69(a)cableone.net> wrote:
 > Aaron,
 >
 > Sounds strange.  If you are using LILO to boot
 > press <Ctrl>-x at the
 > splash screen and then enter "linux single" at the
 > boot: prompt to boot
 > into single user mode.  If you are using GRUB you
 > can press "e" when the
 > GRUB splash screen comes up.  Highlight your normal
 > boot line with the
 > arrow keys, press "e" again, add " single" to the
 > end of the boot line,
 > press Enter, press "b".  This will boot you into
 > single user mode.  At
 > that point you can look around your system and see
 > if anything is
 > amiss.  Many times just getting it to boot into
 > single user mode and
 > then doing a clean reboot will clear up any problems
 > you have.  If
 > you're getting a message about having to manually
 > fix a disk partition
 > you can manually fsck a disk partition by entering
 > "fsck
 > /dev/hdWHATEVER".  Usually I just agree to let it
 > fix whatever is wrong
 > at that point since anything more involved is
 > "magic".  Good luck.
 >
 >
 > Jan
 >
 >
 >
 > On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 04:57, Aaron Trumm wrote:
 > > reposting this cuz I ALWAYS forget to make the
 > messages plain text from my
 > > windows machine:
 > >
 > > Hello all - this has actually become a general
 > problem, but I think it was
 > > caused by Ardour, so I'm cross posting on linux
 > audio and the ardour lists
 > >
 > > I'm running Red Hat and the latest ardour from
 > Planet CCRMA which I think is
 > > 0.9beta11.2-1 - I was recording a take, and upon
 > pushing stop Ardour
 > > crashed - a similar has happened many times with
 > this version, actually
 > > pretty much every time - after the take, it gives
 > me a memory error, I click
 > > ok, ardour exits, I go back, but it kept the take.
 > >
 > > but this time, it crashed without that, i started
 > ardour again, the take
 > > WASN'T there, and then ardour either froze or
 > crashed I can't remember which
 > > cuz I was in session so it was hectic, and I
 > needed to reboot manually and
 > > so I did, and now, though, it won't boot - it
 > hangs and says "kernel panic.
 > > no init found.  try passing the init= option"
 > >
 > > I can provide more details if needed - I think the
 > kernel is also the latest
 > > planet kernel - but from what I've been able to
 > find I don't think it
 > > matters.
 > >
 > > so I grabbed my emergency boot disk, or what I
 > think is my emergency boot
 > > disk, because I have never used it, and reset, and
 > I get what I'm sure is a
 > > familiar prompt to most, the 'ol
 > >
 > > boot:
 > >
 > > and it's telling me to hit return or wait ten
 > seconds to boot from /dev/hda2
 > > (hmmm - is that where the boot loader really is on
 > my system?  not sure)  -
 > > and that I can "type "linux <params>", and press
 > <return> if I want to
 > > override the defaults
 > >
 > > now I know nothing about these params and I'm more
 > familiar with a dos boot
 > > disk where i shove that thing in and reboot and
 > I'm looking at a dos prompt
 > > even if my harddrive is totally wanked.
 > >
 > > what I've read has told me to boot up and edit
 > some files - fstab maybe?
 > > but uh - *blush*  - how can I get to a danged
 > prompt?
 > >
 > >
 > > for the ardour list:  does this sound familiar, is
 > this version of ardour
 > > known to do this kind of thing?
 > >
 >
 >
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