19 Aug
2005
19 Aug
'05
11:19 p.m.
Shayne O'Connor wrote:
Brad Fuller wrote:
Ah....Well..
I think it's pretty straightforward, depending on what the copyright
holder(s) state in the email posting.
If the copyright holder of a work states that the work can be downloaded
and listened to, (without stating anything further, which is what we are
talking about right? -- i.e. the default), I believe that the copyright
holder is giving you the right to do so. That means the copyright holder
is allowing you to listen to the piece to your heart's content --- which
would include placing it on your hard drive or a CD and listening to it
in a private setting. And, if the copyright holder doesn't state
anything else, he is offering his work for free.
However, that does not mean that the copyright holder is giving you
permission to distribute the work in any way - that means giving the
work to others, putting it on an Internet server for others to listen to
(e.g. Internet radio), putting it on bittorrent to be propagated, taking
it to a bar and playing it for others, copying the music and making your
own recording of it (you could potentially get mechanical rights, but
not rights to the composition), etc.
brad
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Shayne O'Connor wrote:
just want to make clear - i'm not talking about giving up
ownership/authorship/licensing fees ... i'm talking about sharing
music, as in "am i allowed to keep this in my shares folder when using
soulseek/amule/etc? am i allowed to aggregate/distribute it along the
lines of RadIO or Commontunes.org?". Lee Revell wrote:
One needs specific authorization from the copyright owners (both from
composers and the ones who own the sound recording) to distribute or
reproduce copyrighted recorded works.
IANAL either, but I would propose that if you posted a message to a
specific group (not the world) and indicate that they are allowed to
download a piece, you are in fact giving them the option to listen to
your piece for free. But, they don't own the piece. There is nothing
implied in the act of allowing them to listen to it that indicates
they can transfer the piece to someone else. Because, they don't have
the right -- only the copyright owner does.
On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 20:35 +0100, tim hall
wrote:
> If we are going to assume CC status for works posted here
IANAL but I am almost positive that would not hold up in a US court.
Creative works default to "All rights reserved", which includes
anything
posted to this list without a specific license attached, regardless of
what the informal list policy is.
just in the interests of clarifying something (i doubt it will serve
much practical purpose here):
it is agreed that, in the absence of any other licensing
information, that creative works will default to "All rights
reserved" ... but out of interest, does posting a link with explicit
permission to download (ie copy) a song, give up any copyrights *in
that instance* ? because you are, in effect, lifting some of those
implied copyright restrictions (otherwise it would be against the
law to make a copy of it, wouldn't it?).