10 Feb
2013
10 Feb
'13
9:49 p.m.
If I may weigh in:
I agree that there has been some overreaction on the list about this
wallpaper (notably, the first email in this particular thread, and
possibly the person who originally brought it up, who was perhaps
exaggerating slightly when he described it as "hentai paedo-porn" or
similar.) However, I do think the image is, if not offensive per se,
certainly borderline inappropriate for inclusion in a distro.
I think that including an image of a 'hot' female tacitly sends the
message that those who are viewing it are likely to be (heterosexual)
males, i.e., that this is a 'boy's space'. Non-gynophile users (that
is, those who aren't attracted to women) are, in my view, likely to
read in it, albeit subtly, the message that they're not as welcome
here as they might be. This is, if you ask me, the last thing we need.
And although there is a rationale and justifying context to the image
(the noted connections to open source licensing etc.), this isn't
clear to those viewing the image, and hence doesn't really mitigate
the possible exclusionary effect.
In more general terms: a glance at
http://terriblelinuxwallpaper.tumblr.com/ (not necessarily safe for
work) is, in my view, fairly instructive on this issue. Check the
ratio of desktops featuring hot girls to those featuring hot guys.
Make of it what you will, but to me it suggests that linux culture
could stand to be somewhat more inclusive and egalitarian -
particularly when an image along these lines is included by default in
a distro.
My tuppence.
Cheers,
J
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:51 PM, SxDx <sed(a)free.fr> wrote:
http://sed.free.fr/fuck_your_sexism.ogg
Shit music, shit recording, for shit people.
Inspired by some shit on IRC freenode/#lad
(see below, especially
"<male> falktx_: Ah, but you're not a 350lbs angry wife." and
"<falktx_> I think it's very cute")
and some crap on this almost female-free mailing list.
Sexism. Is. Not. Tolerable.
It's true in the "real world" (think: shit countries,
including yours, wherever you are),
and even more in places promoting freedom, like this list.
If you don't see sexism in that picture, chances
are your brain is doomed. Don't come bullshit me,
I don't care about you. I won't talk to you.
Do some research on sexism, as described by women,
how it affects them, how hard it is for them most
of the time to spit on your sexist bastardish face.
I am not a woman. I spit on your face.
I don't care if you insult me after
that email. I don't care if you ban me.
I just can't stand sexism, period.
Fuck you if you're a sexist.
Fuck your sexism.
----------------------
<falktx_> yes!
<falktx_> :)
<nilsge> falktx_: shane richards?
<falktx_> I'm 24 btw
<falktx_> yep
<nilsge> then I'll read that instead of deleting it
<falktx_> my windows apps stopped working on linux, lol
<male> falktx_: I had to look up the image to see what he was talking
about... hardly offensive.
<hurfadurf> haha what
<falktx_> this pic: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr124.png
<falktx_> it's Hatsune Miku
<falktx_> a big thing on japanese culture actually
<falktx_> I've switched the default to be without her pose, but the 12.04.1
KXStudio ISO will remain with that as default
<falktx_> I think it's very cute
<hurfadurf> haha, oh man.
<male> falktx_: Ah, but you're not a 350lbs angry wife.
<nilsge> falktx_: you are ecchi, man
<nilsge> lol
<hurfadurf> male: whoa, shots fired!
<hurfadurf> haha
<falktx_> that was just pure rant
<falktx_> I only got 1 single complain about that miku pic, and its from a
guy I talk to frequently
<falktx_> basically he never went to me to say anything at all
<falktx_> Q&A, yeah
<male> falktx_: Change it to this (NSFW) in the next release:
http://goo.gl/HRFE1
<falktx_> for the record, I still maintain the 10.04/Lucid repos
<falktx_> male: nice
<falktx_> male: oh, even better, randomly show pics when least expected ;)
<falktx_> maybe patch jack to do it on xruns
<falktx_> haha
<male> I will never understand Japanese culture.
<falktx_> these things make me sad. half of those are not true
<falktx_> some people will see the rant and ignore it, but I'm afraid some
might actually believe it
<male> falktx_: Compare him to Hitler so we can hurry up and end this thread
;-)
<falktx_> I'm not replying
<falktx_> I barely reply to ML, it's annoying
<male> falktx_: Anyway, there was no point to his suffering. He should have
had an offsite backup.
<falktx_> or asked directly
<falktx_> I have links to the old Lucid ISOs
<falktx_> they will still work
<SxDx> (where am I...)
* You have left channel #lad ("better leave than read that crap")
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