Re: [LAU] So what do you think sucks about Linux audio ?

On Wed, February 6, 2013 5:19 am, Raffaele Morelli wrote: For me to use Win/OSX I would first have to become a windows or OSX student. Say what? Yes I have been using Linux (CLI, fvwm, KDE, Gnome, xfce, X, Xorg) for years... since I found out OS/2 (2.*) was not going to fill my needs (win3.1 was _SO_ bad it wasn't even worth considering). I find win and or OSX confusing, slow (at least windows is, OSX boxes are beyond my family budget anyway) and flaky. That is my personal experience. I have figured out that this is because I know the quirks of my own OS so well, I don't see them. I have found windows users (and OSX users to some degree) are similarly blind to their own OSs problems. The general thing with OSs is to choose your software first and get the system OS that goes with it. Pure musician? Them are the ones that sits by the side of the road and plays and sings for dollars thrown in their hat. (no insult intended, I have heard some fantastic music from people who make their living this way and am happy they share it) Anyone who does any electric music has something of a tinker in them. Human beings as a whole are successful at surviving because they are not pure anything, but rather great generalists. That may be true, there are all in one projects out there that try to emulate some of the well known win/osx SW. I have found though that people who start with them tend to move on to other things as they get used to linux. As other people have said Linux is not a (name whatever OS here) clone. It is not even anymore a unix clone. It has grown into it's own OS. Yes there is a learning curve, but there is with any OS. It is just harder to see the learning curve for the old OS one has been using for years than for the new one when learning it. If we step outside of audio into "normal desktop computing" (browsing, office work, etc) the changeover time from Windows to Linux (or the other way) is about 15 minutes or less. This is mostly due to commercial made SW (Firefox and open office). Music will be the same... when linux has enough musicians using linux for their work, commercial products will show up, interfaces will just work, etc. because it will make money for that to be so. What I would like to see, is a tool that helps someone switch from one lib to the new version. The original developer of gcdmaster is not moving it from gnome/gtk2 to 3 (that I know). A utility that can point out any calls to the old lib and give hints on what to do to change over to the new one. Might help to keep these very useful one off programs from vanishing. I have not found a program that I consider a replacement for gcdmaster. Anything else I have tried to use to make a .toc file from, I have had to edit by hand or run gcdmaster on an old install I keep to fix it. Any other program I have used to create a toc/cue file has also created a single file of the whole audio track for the cd instead of allowing the original wave files to be used as is. I am not complaining about other methods of making CDs, I am rather saying the upgrade path from one version of lib to the next could be easier for the programer who is just learning or has limited time. This might bring more people into audio software development. Note: if there is such a tool... I would like to try it. A tool for adding jack as an audio driver to alsa/oss software would be really nice too... sorry, I mean a tool to help people convert alsa/oss software to jack sw. -- Len Ovens www.OvenWerks.net