1 Sep
2010
1 Sep
'10
2:19 p.m.
On Mon, August 30, 2010 11:05 am, James Morris wrote:
On 30 August 2010 18:36, Rustom Mody
<rustompmody(a)gmail.com> wrote:
So you don't think the constant bombardment with dumbed down pop culture
has anything to answer for?
What do you think was the point of Pop Art?
There is a good reason why Andy Wharhol was considered a revolutionary
thinker at the time...
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd.
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:43 PM, <fons(a)kokkinizita.net> wrote:
Then let's blame the Dadaists and Surrealists. They're the two art
movements which advertisers have mined to the greatest extent for
inspiration. They brought the art of the insane out of the shadows,
and 'primitive' art also (an art also of spirits and devils and aliens
etc).
just my change from 2 cents.
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 06:04:53AM -0700, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
I would just like to point out some (perhaps irrelevant) points:
1. The great western classical tradition which started around Bach (or a
few
hundred years earlier depending on how you look at/hear it) suddenly
died
around 1900.
Classical music degenerated into varieties of insanities like serialism
etc
and pop/rock etc emerged over the next 50 years out of what was earlier
simple folk music.
2. Western music has always used and experimented with varieties of
well-tempering.
Equal tempering only took hold in the 20th century ie after 1900 see for
example:
http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/~mrubinst/tuning/tuning.html
3. The 'greatest' wars that humans have ever fought happened in the 20th
century Yes, I agree the basic formula for mindless
drivel has not changed
much
over the years. Perhaps that is why we have been
dominated by a
hereditary
elite for so long now?
Unfortunately, much of this thread is mindless drivel as well:
* Reducing a complex social process to a simplistic conspiration
theory.
* Abusing ill-defined but suggestive terminology from Freudian
psychology,
('subconscious', 'mind', etc.) ignoring everything this science as
produced over the last 30 or so years.
And what is this 'hereditary elite' ? The last few kings and kaisers
that remain here and there ?
If we are accepting of this as the status quo
then we get what we
deserve.
Those who accept it get what they deserve. It's up to you to decide
if you are included or not.
Ciao,
--
FA