22 Dec
2002
22 Dec
'02
7:31 p.m.
hey, no, dont apologise.
this raises important and interesting questions.... especially given
that we all know certain groups, no names mentioned, who have gone to
some fairly extreme lengths to discredit the GPL. i think your concerns
about security are valid and often overlooked.
i've taken the liberty of dropping you a line privately (rather than get
further OT with a plug for my book!) but i'd be really interested in
discussing this with you further.
best
m~ (miriam)
Darren Landrum wrote:
Okay, I feel like I should apologize to the list for
this diatribe. I am
sorry if I offended anyone or broke any rules.
I just want to make it clear that the Open Music Resource Library is not
a napster for Acid loops. That's all. (You know, I should change the
topic to reflect the new name of the library.) (... And done.) :)
Also, I would like to thank everyone for your input, feedback, and
offers for help. I feel that this library site will be built, and will
be successful, and it will be because of the community, and all of us here.
And with that, I need to go back to prepping my new house for painting.
I'll be back on later tonight.
Regards,
Darren Landrum
On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 03:39 PM, Darren Landrum wrote:
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*** stopping make sense ***
Yes, it is regrettable. It is regrettable that
there are people out
there that are not to be trusted. It is regrettable that many of those
self-same people would stoop to such actions as uploading a loop or a
sample set that they have no rights to *because* they want to damage
such open initiatives.
I very highly doubt that anyone I've talked to on this list would ever
be the cause of such problems.
And yet, there are people out there who are malicious because they
like to cause trouble, or sometimes even because someone is paying
them. Then all it takes is a pack of attack lawyers. It's happened
before, and it can happen to us.
I do not want to implement any DRM measures. I simply want to catch
people trying to do such things as I described above and be able to
deal with them, quietly if possible.
Personally, I think a web of trust is the best way to go. If we make
accounts difficult to get, and to spoof, then users uploading illegal
materials will (hopefully, anyway) leave behind an audit trail that
can lead us to them.
Remember, we aren't just talking about audio loops and samples, here.
You could gzip up some illicit jpegs featuring some activities that
would make your stomach turn, not to mention attract the authorities
to the ones running the system. Unfortunately, file shares like this
one are ripe for that kind of abuse if proper steps aren't taken. (As
a side note, we had already figured out a way to deal with this kind
of activity, but I leave it here as an example.)
Sorry if I rambled on my soapbox a little too long, but this is a sore
point of mine. You just can't automatically trust everyone. You need
some checks and balances in the system.
Regards,
Darren Landrum