2 Jul
2011
2 Jul
'11
6:16 p.m.
On 2 July 2011 16:45, James Morris <jwm.art.net(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 2 July 2011 16:20, Renato <rennabh(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Except the method probably still wouldn't be satisfactory because of
the problems around inverted velocity.... causing.... inverted
velocity!
Which lead me to realize a better method would be to add a velocity
range for the patch to trigger on. There already exists a key range, a
velocity range would be a natural pairing of this.
note though, key tracking maps only keys within the key range, so the
lowest key in the key range provides 0.0, and the highest key in the
key range provides 1.0 (rather than the lowest and highest keys on the
keyboard (ie 127 midi 'keys'). velocity sensing then would have the
same behaviour, ie, it doesn't map to the min (0) and max (127)
velocities, rather it maps to min and max values in the velocity
range.
the problem though, is that petri-foo still doesn't allow layering of
samples within a patch. so say you setup five patches with five
samples to be in five overlapping velocity ranges. that's five
different patches. you don't want five patches, you want to achieve
the illusion of one patch - ie you probably want to achieve the
illusion of a single musical instrument as realistically as possible.
so if you adjust one patch, you probably also need to adjust the other
four also which could rapidly get out of hand.
i really don't see or desire for petri-foo to be a sampler to be used
for realism. you'd be much better served by linux sampler if realism
is what you're looking to create.
cheers,
james.
On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:21:07 +0100
James Morris <jwm.art.net(a)gmail.com> wrote:
you mean that the method you were describing of applying velocity to the
amplitude doesn't work? I ask because I wouldn't know how to test it, I
haven't exactly understood how I should do it
Hi,
No not the method of applying the settings in a specific manner, but
the part of the program that deals with velocity sensing. I expected
to be able to use negative velocity sensing values to invert the
meaning of low and high velocities. Trouble is, the slider is not set
to allow negative values, and I need to check that the code could
handle negative values also.
The method would have been to have one patch with normal velocity
sensing, and the other patch with inverted velocity sensing.
There's the hackish way, where both samples will always play, but
one can be quiet while the other is loud. You just need to apply the
velocity sensing to the amplitude in the correct way. But note that
there's no threshold value, it's a smooth rampage of amplitudes.
Only at the extremities will one sample be heard and not the other;
mid points will cause both to be heard to varying degrees.
great example of why i need users to report things which don't work.
Thanks,
James.
renato