Edgar Aichinger <edogawa(a)aon.at> writes:
  Am Sonntag, 11. April 2021, 15:00:49 CEST schrieb
David Kastrup:
  Alf Haakon Pietruszka Lund
<alf(a)mellomrommet.no> writes:
  I see I missed a small but important point; these
are condensator
 mikes. Yikes... 
 Yes and no: electret condenser.  They don't need phantom power for
 polarising the capacitor capsule as it comes prepolarised.  But they do
 need some power (typically 3V–6V) as plugin-power to power the built-in
 FET preamplifier without which the weak capsule signal would not make it
 through the microphone cable.
 The infamous Neewer BM800 can convert phantom power to plugin power and
 thus can be run on either depending on the cable type (while providing
 S/N ratios that are not impressive for either application).
 But a lot more typically, devices only work with one kind of power.  The
 kind of soundcard/computer providing 3.5mm TRS (or TS) microphone inputs
 tend to carry plugin power (sometimes switchable by software), XLR
 inputs tend to have an option for phantom power (almost always +48V
 these days), sometimes switchable in groups.
  
 While I'm all for using better equipment, I wonder if this mic really
 needs phantom or plugin power (I don't even know that term) 
Cheap compact microphones invariably are electret condenser and
invariably need a power source: plugin power, 1.5V battery or something
else.
  If it's designed for a laptop headset jack, that
wouldn't supply that
 either? 
Laptop headset jacks invariably provide plugin power.
  It can probably get that power from USB. 
USB soundcards can also power actual phantom power since the actual
current requirements are low, so a stepup converter will make for +48V
if you manage to design it in a manner not contributing converter whine
into the sound experience.
  Anyway, the Amazon product page talks about batteries,
and I know that
 cheap and not so cheap (I had one by Sony) electret external stereo
 mics with mini-jack plug for home video cameras etc. existed long ago
 already. 
Invariably using plugin power unless they require their own batteries.
--
David Kastrup