Paul wrote:
david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com>om>, on Wed Dec 12, 2007
[10:54:58 PM] said:
Paul wrote:
Modelines really shouldnt be required unless you
have certain
requirements in regard to the timings. A modern Xorg server will
have a billion built-in modes, and it will make all of them available
that are within the constraints of your monitors specs and the available
clock settings of your video card.
And it may insist on guessing wrong about which
ones actually work ...
One advantage of the older Xorgs was you could REMOVE all the modelines
except the one you wanted it to use. This helped prevent rude GUIs such
as the thrice-accursed GNOME from forcing my system into a junky
1280x1024xinterlaced mode simply because said-thrice-accursed GNOME was
idiotically thinking it was dealing with someone who didn't know his
display hardware was capable of any higher resolution than 1024x768. But
one of the things I hate about GNOME is its rather Microsoft-ish
attitude that "We know best" ...
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
Hi;
Xorg should put the cabosh on any modes that exceed the
highest resolution you specify in the Modes line of the Screen
section. So, if you put "1024x768" there, you should get the
best refresh your monitor is spec'd at for that resolution,
and no other higher res crappier options should exist. (actually,
its probably limited by the 'virtual' resolution, but its
fairly unusual to see anyone choosing a different virtual res
than their highest Mode...)
I usually hand roll my main Modeline to maximize
refresh at my desired resolutions, and specify that. Fortunately,
my WM doesnt override my default selection.
Here are the complete contents of my Xorg.conf file, as created by
Debian Etch during the installation process:
Section "Files"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated
Graphics Device"
Driver "i810"
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
VideoRam 16384
Option "UseFBDev" "true"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Toshiba LCD"
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 30-67
VertRefresh 30-60
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated
Graphics Device"
Monitor "Toshiba LCD"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Modes "1280x800"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad"
EndSection
Nary a modeline in sight.
I have seen a gdm start up at too high a res on a
default
install, such that the monitor could not even display.
ctrl-alt-<minus> until it is ok, then once gnome started up there
was some pointy-clicky gui tool to choose desired resolution and
refresh, which seemed to fix things permanently.
It gets the screen resolution right, just the font sizes are massively off.
This was a situation in which no Modes were specified
at
all in xorg.conf. I would think that if you actually get in thar
and specify some Modes you want, gnome/gdm will pick from *those*
modes. [in which case you might be ranting on gnome for just
defaulting to the highest res. the X server offered, which,
barring it reading your mind, seems like the simpleminded-est
best choice.]
Paul
set(a)pobox.com
ps. I hope the entities that are forcing you to use gnome also
arent imposing your email address upon you as well... ;)
I was going to answer that I've been using gnome as my email ID for
longer than GNOME has been around, but I don't know how long GNOME has
been around ... anyway, my use of gnome predates my use of Linux, and
I've been using Linux for eight years now ...
Actually, I'm not using GNOME - I'm quite happy to login at a text login
prompt and manually startx. I figure if any Windows user tries to start
up and use my laptop, they'll think it's broken and just give up. ;-)
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
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