14 Nov
2006
14 Nov
'06
11:49 p.m.
david wrote:
Brad Fuller wrote:
Yeah... kernels are no problem for me,
either. It's complete distros
that's the problem. I remember one time I had instructions on how to
upgrade from FC2 to FC3 (or some lower numbered Fedora distro). I think
you were to change your repos to point to the next distro. I did that,
but it never worked well.
Has anyone upgraded FC from the repos? How well did it work?
Joe just mentioned he has upgraded using the CDROMs, but it never worked
well for me. There was always something that was hanging around that
never got updated.
What is the consensus of upgrading FC from the CDROMs? Has anyone else
upgraded successfully this way?
brad
Forest Bond wrote:
apt-get, Synaptic, etc all handle distro updates, too. Even kernels.
I've updated kernels a couple of times using Synaptic.
I guess you could say that Debian, in a sense, really doesn't have the
RH/Fedora idea of "upgrades." On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 05:30:11PM -0800, Brad
Fuller wrote:
Upgrading applications is easy as pie on Fedora, as long as you get the
right repos. I use Smart Manager and it's very nice, once you get it
setup.
My concern is not applications, but the distro itself. every time there is a new Fedora Core, I usually
get around to
moving to
the next version. However, for me, it's a bit of a pain to do because
you really have to wipe the disc and start all over.. ."upgrading"
Fedora doesn't really work well. At least for me it doesn't.
Don't you find this a bit irritating? I do. It's not hard, it just
seems
unnecessary.
I don't know why people tolerate this sort of thing. Debian and
Ubuntu have
_always_ upgraded well for me. These are projects that recognize
that one of
the most important (if not _the_ most important) responsibilty of a
distribution
is dependency management, including versioned dependencies through
upgrades.
I recently started maintaining a RHEL server at work, and up2date is
one of the
crudest tools I've ever seen. It just barely does anything right at
all.
I guess I've just been spoiled by apt-get, aptitude, synaptic,
update-manager,
et. al... (And the package maintainers for the above-mentioned
projects --
package managers need good data to do their jobs well).