Re: [LAU] Music made with Linux: Pushing Angel 303

Hi Paul. About my experiences with Ardour, first thing about I've never mentioned - I really appreciated ardour during recording - possibility to expose by defaualt every channel audio with its own name in jack - for now I haven't found another one (working with Linux such) with such intuitive and useful approach. But after recording material (5 channels - 2xvoc, drums, bass, guitar) we started to mixing it down. Routing and mixer + also intuitive usage of plugins on mixer - was very nice. Unfortunately at this point my ardour started to crash - for now I don't remember exactly details (it was around 2,5 months ago). I was using KXStudio based on Ubuntu Lucid (32 bit) on Dell XPSM1330 (3GB ram), latest ardour - 2.8.11 - for that time... Fast saves of snapshots became really helpful. At some we found, that drums are bit desyncronised in recording and we would like them to tune a bit. So I started to slice them and we wanted connect them - we found problem. For 1,5 hour 3 ppl (1 very technical, 1 half technical, 1 non technical) were not able to find an easy / any way to activate it. Problem supposed to be easy - create new drum track based on sliced samples - alliging / snapping them,. And yes, we made it - zooming it to to maximum and alligning carefully with hand on zoomed waveform... Today I opened ardour, read small sample, set snapping to region ends and magnetic - and it did work. No clue - maybe problem was realet with "weight of project" and that everything working slow? (2,5 hours of recorind for 5 channels - ardour on my not too fast laptop was pretty). For now I don't access to this project to check this behaviour once again. Hm, saying more - now even snapping to beat work. Dunno. Another problem which we experienced - ardour was slow on zooming - mooving the workspace. Probably faster machine would resolve the problem - but another DAW here (Linux) was faster.... Another of problem was editing of sample in details - finally we finished with exporting them to audacity and so on.... Ok, this about my experiences using Ardour as Multi track recorder - one problem looks like is resolved for me - but will have to check again on big project. About my "useless" word - I was referring to work with Ardour as software to create music. For me, personally is difficult to focus on creativity when I don't have access to built in "piano player", "step sequencer" just out of the box. I know (or at least I read about it) about seq24 and possibility to use it - but never tried it and for sure it is not so usefull like possibility to edit notes directly from DAW (for example energyXT has both - piano roll and simply but very useful drum sequencer , and renoise tracker way of editiing provides both. In both its easy integrated with automations.... I think that ardour works excellent as part of jack framework and integrates all other apps like Hydrogen / seq24... But I haven't used to such way of editing and always preferable "batteries included" approach. I read that piano roll will be part of ardour3 - thats sounds very promising... Anyway, I read a bit about ardour on this maillist and for sure will give another try once again :) Cheers and thanks for patient for frustrated sometimes users ;) bluszcz On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:31:44 -0500, Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote: is -- Rafal bluszcz Zawadzki Django / Plone / Python / dub / drum&bass http://dev.bluszcz.net/tech-blog http://soundcloud.com/bluszcz # 371 words, 1 message