1 Dec
2003
1 Dec
'03
7:32 a.m.
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Chris Cannam wrote:
On Monday 01 Dec 2003 10:45 am, Joerg Anders wrote:
... Ok, my
mistake!
Do you really get different results
with FluidR3 soundfont and FluidSynth ?
Well, one problem is that I don't think you've ever actually said
which patch you're using, except that it's "strings".
String Ensemble 1 (49): pretty much the same as you. I'm guessing
this is what you're using.
Yes, that's what I'm talking about!
String Ensemble 2 (50): a nice smooth string wash, no attack.
Yes, but these are slow strings. They always come too late.
Synth Strings 1 (51): a smooth sound with some pretty bizarre tuning.
Synth Strings 2 (52): similar but more so (reminds me of that
out-of-tune synth in Joy Division's The Eternal).
The synth strings are unusable in most cases. Only patch 49
behaves and sounds like real strings.
So you see, I've generally assumed that most of
these fonts were just
designed to have the string ensemble 1 sound a bit more vigorous for
faster passages and the string ensemble 2 be the friendly wash. That
is actually quite a useful distinction. It hadn't occurred to me
that other synths would play it differently.
The string ensemble 2 always comes too late. If you want an accompainmant
you cannot use string ensemble 2.
Given that this isn't exhibited with all string patches, it really
might be worth taking a bit more time to check that the hardware
synth is actually the correct one...
... TiMidity gives also smooth strings. The same happens with AWE32/64.
On M$-Windows are also non-attacking strings. Believe me: The
soundfont creator certainly had no attacking strings in mind!
Just because you like it better
doesn't necessarily mean it is (although it seems probable). I
It is certainly a FluidSynth error.
certainly agree with you that the difference is rather
strange.
My question is: What is the conclusion ? Is there any FluidSynth
programmer on this list ?
If not, that means: There is no soft synth which creates a
good bigband sound. The hardware sound is the only option.
But the Audigy2 driver produces gaps:
http://rnvs.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/DROP/gap.html
And apparently nobody will fix this. Thus, I'll throw away my
Audigy2 soundcard and I'll follow the recommendation of
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Hartmut Z Noack wrote:
If SB-Live does not work sufficiently, why dont trying
to use Terratecs
EWX24/96? The card does not have Hardware SF-Support but you can load
SFs into RAM (if you have enough...) and it works perfectly well for me.
Conclusion: try Delta 66 or some similar Pro-Gear or try it with a
ICE-chipbased card like terratecs muse, whitch are verywell supported by
alsa and can play SF from RAM.
The whole dilemma comes from: The AWE64 is an ISA card.
Otherwise, I'd further use AWE64 ... :-((
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J.Anders, Chemnitz, GERMANY (ja(a)informatik.tu-chemnitz.de)