At Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:08:11 -1000,
david wrote:
 Takashi Iwai wrote:
  At Wed, 01 Aug 2007 11:58:41 -1000,
 gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com wrote:
  The reason you see the options for "caller
ID" and "off hook" is that
 the Intel HDA chipset also includes a modem. My laptop uses Intel HDA,
 and I'm used to the modem part showing up as if it were an audio device.
 The audio works on my laptop except for an inability to record from the
 mic input. Last I heard, ALSA was blaming the kernel, and kernel
 developers were blaming ALSA. Although I haven't tried it since my most
 recent kernel update. 
 An interesting rumor.  Where did you hear such a thing? 
 IIRC, it's my slightly-dramatized rendering of what one of the ALSA
 developers said when he responded to my bug report about not being able
 to record from the mic input on my Intel chipset. He basically said that
 the ALSA driver was not being notified *by the kernel* that the audio
 input buffer was full and ready to be read. He advised me to try again
 with a more recent kernel. Now the part about the kernel people blaming
 it on ALSA developers may have come from this list. 
Then, well, you made it really too dramatic.  Requesting the update to
the latest kernel is a very standard procedure.  Otherwise, the
developer cannot start real debugging at all.
The most important thing is to level the environment of both
development and testing.  Thus this has nothing to with blaming
whomever.  It's the stage even before blaming someone else.
Takashi