Shelagh Manton wrote:
On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:23:47 +0100
schoappied <schoappied(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Shelagh Manton wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:58:20 +0100
> schoappied <schoappied(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
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>>> schoappied wrote:
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>>>> Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
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>>>>> Joe Hartley wrote:
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>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:26:54 +0100
>>>>>> schoappied <schoappied(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>> When I want to open qsynth on Ubuntu while jackctl is
already
>>>>>>> running I'll get these messages:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Turn off the setting in Qsynth that starts jack when Qsynth
>>>>>> starts.
>>>>>>
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>>>>> i'm sorry but this setting is not available on
>>>>> qsynth(fluidsynth)
>>>>>
>>>>> however it's something of the sort on qjackctl
>>>>>
>>>>> sure, you must have jack running _before_ you start qsynth.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>> The error about connecting with jack is gone.
>>>>
>>>> But the one about not connecting to alsa_seq, no midi device
>>>> stands still....
>>>>
>>>> : Failed to create the MIDI driver (alsa_seq). No MIDI input will
>>>> be available.
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>>> do you have the alsa sequencer module loaded?
>>>
>>> try as root:
>>>
>>> modprobe snd-seq-midi
>>>
>>> and to make it permanent on every boot (on ubuntu):
>>>
>>> echo snd-seq-midi > /etc/modules
>>>
>>> byee
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks for the replies.
>>
>> There is a problem with the midi stuff. I must say I don't
>> understand close to nothing about this subject on linux, but it
>> seems that there are some things which are disturbing eachother...
>>
>> This is my /etc/modules on Ubuntu:
>>
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>> # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
>> #
>> # This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be
>> loaded # at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with "#" are
>> ignored.
>>
>> loop
>> lp
>> fuse
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>> snd-seq-midi
>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> But I'll still get those messages...
>>
>> @Arda:
>>
>> service timidity stop (as root) is not working. Command service
>> not found or something....
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> "service" is a redhat thang. Use /etc/init.d/timidity stop instead.
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>> I also use noteedit and for that I need to load timidity. Is there
>> a way to set up the midi in Ubuntu which works with all programs
>> e.g. noteedit, rosegarden, qsynth etc. ??
>>
>>
>>
> timidity has a jack option..
>
> timidity -iA -Oj #-iA using Alsa and -Oj outputting to jackd
>
> This may make timidity play nice with all your jack toys.
>
> Shelagh
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>
>
>> My sister is a (semi) prof. musicians and she is using Finale
>> 2007. I want to look if I can set her mind to linux..... But
>> things should be preconfigured smoothly to accomplish this....
>>
>>
Have her look at this page.
http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-1.html
Which is by someone who uses finale and tried lilypond.
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dirk
>>
>>
Dirk, I have had problems as I have an on-board soundcard and
"another"
(which is too embarrassingly old to mention on this venerable list) and
I had to tell jack specifically to use hw:1 not the onboard card.
Do you have an extra sound-card confusing things?
Has anyone asked you to try this command?
lsmod | grep snd
If you send the result to this list, someone might be able to help you.
But I can tell you that it *is* possible to have jackd, timidity (using
jack output) qsynth and rosegarden running together as I've done it on
my box which runs ubuntu.
Shelagh
PS my /etc/modules file does not have snd-seq-midi listed. Go figure.
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What is waste of time is this. Unbelievable that I can't make a
simple synth to work... Very irritating.
Thanks Shelagh for your reply, but I'll still get:
*': Failed to create the MIDI driver (alsa_seq). No MIDI input will
be available.'
*LEt me explain again what I want. I want to work on Ubuntu with
qjackctl > qsynth > rosegarden. I also want to work with other apps
like noteedit, zynadd... etc. (qjackctl is running fine). * *- Please
explain to me what AND why I've to load in my /etc/modules on Ubuntu.
- What is snd-seq, snd-seq-midi? Should I load them both, what is the
difference and should I use snd-seq or snd_seq? Should I also load
timidity on my /etc/modules?
- Can I use just one midi player (snd-seq or timidity) for all my
programs eg noteedit, qsynth, qjackctl, rosegarden etc.?
- Is there maybe something wrong with my audio/ midi configuration on
Ubuntu? (I don't talk about midi hardware).
- Are there specific things/ settings I should notice when I connect
qsynth to qjackctl?
- Is there another synth comparable with qsynth?
It seems to me that the way audio is organized on linux is a little
bit unorganized and complex... But maybe I'm in a bad period or so...
Kind regards,
Dirk
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As I said, only engine 1 is not working.... You can see that in the
messages displayed by qsynth.
-------------------------------------------
e@ubuntu:~$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_rtctimer 4384 1
snd_intel8x0 34844 1
snd_ac97_codec 100772 1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus 3456 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm_oss 44928 0
snd_mixer_oss 17664 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 80644 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy 4740 0
snd_seq_oss 33792 0
snd_seq_midi 9600 0
snd_rawmidi 25728 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event 8576 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 54128 7
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer 24324 3 snd_rtctimer,snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 9228 5
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd 55172 13
snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore 9312 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 11400 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
-------------------------------------------------
qsynth messages:
13:38:55.455 Qsynth1: Creating audio driver (jack)...
13:38:55.581 Qsynth1: Creating MIDI router (alsa_seq)...
13:38:55.582 Qsynth1: Creating MIDI driver (alsa_seq)...
*13:38:55.615 Qsynth1: Failed to create the MIDI driver (alsa_seq). No
MIDI input will be available.
JACK tmpdir identified as [/dev/shm]
ALSA lib seq.c:935:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ snd-seq
fluidsynth: error: Error opening ALSA sequencer*
13:38:57.874 Qsynth1: Creating MIDI player...
13:38:57.874 Qsynth1: fluid_synth_program_reset()
13:38:57.892 Qsynth1: Synthesizer engine started.
13:38:57.894 Qsynth2: Creating synthesizer engine...
13:38:58.022 Qsynth2: Loading soundfont:
"/home/japke/Muziek/Soundfonts/jRhodes3.sf2" (bank offset 0)...
13:39:01.347 Qsynth2: Creating audio driver (jack)...
13:39:01.468 Qsynth2: Creating MIDI router (alsa_seq)...
13:39:01.468 Qsynth2: Creating MIDI driver (alsa_seq)...
13:39:01.530 Qsynth2: Creating MIDI player...
Dirk
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edit: forgot to change the title. I realise that the making of something
like qsynth should be praised... It saves time ;)
back on topic...