9 Jun
2011
9 Jun
'11
1:24 p.m.
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 00:39 -1000, david wrote:
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
And your brain ;).
I'm not sure if it's a myth or true, it's said that stroboscope effects
can cause epileptic shocks even for averaged people. (Hopefully this
won't cause a discussion as the one about 'time'. ;)
A vertically frequency of 60 Hz won't cause an epileptic shock, but at
least effect your well-being.
Anyway, stroboscope effects are used as weapons.
At 60 Hz I would use a dark theme, unfortunately dark themes have
disadvantages, regarding to reflections and for the desktop they usually
have side effects, such as invisible fonts, scroll bars etc.. Ardour's
dark seem IMO is good.
I wonder how good modern displays are and if they should be able to
replace monitors for every usage, how expensive those displays are.
The artists I know (among others, some famous comic drawers), having
brand new 'common' displays, use their old monitors again, because the
displays are unusable for graphics, excepted of the video tablets they
additionally use. Those video tablets are very expensive and the usage
is different to the usage of a display or monitor. Perhaps very
expensive displays are able to replace a monitor.
For DAW IMO even a cheap display at all events is the better choice, I
guess ... less electric smog? Space-saving!
I'm unsure if I should switch from monitor to display, as I'm not
drawing for print media, perfect colours aren't that important for me.
But when playing a single coil guitar, a display might be better.
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 22:02 -1000, david wrote:
I don't blame Debian for it (if Xorg dropped support for older hardware,
that's their decision, not Debian's.) But the resolution problem showed
up after I upgraded to 2.6.39 only (no Xorg upgrade involved at that point).
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
I experienced the same issues regarding to the resolution and the 60 Hz
stroboscope (and a non working mouse wheel for my PS/2 mouse, slow down
Internet for PPPoE etc.) with current debianoid Linux. They drop old
hardware, even if they claim not to do. On 06/07/2011 10:27 AM, david wrote:
> The last couple of Ubuntu releases have not included RT kernels because
> Ubuntu thinks no one needs one.
more likely, the latest ubuntu releases were based on kernels newer than
the latest available rt tree, which creates a very complicated situation
for distro maintainers.
with 2.6.39, most of the former rt patchset is now in mainline, and the
big kernel lock is gone for good. that means the situation should
improve a lot, and ease the burdon on maintainers of low-latency
optimized packages.
Well, my experience with non-RT kernels is that on my
hardware, they are
not sufficient for real audio use. I just upgraded my desktop machine to
2.6.39, will see how it goes. Audio works, didn't stress it much. Of
course, for some reason, it has decided that my 17" 1280x1024 monitor
only runs 1024x768 at 60hz ... sigh. Regarding to the monitor, I downgraded X and then
I got back the wanted
1152x864@90Hz. The monitor can do better than 90 Hz, debianoid Linux for
my setup can't anymore, but I guess there's no difference between 90 Hz
and > 90 Hz.
I'm using xserver-xorg-video-nv 1:2.1.17-3 + depending X packages, it's
from Debian stable, while anything else should be from Debian testing.
For Debian testing there's no nv driver anymore and the nouveau doesn't
work on my machine, when using a kernel-rt.
The 2.6.39 kernel I got from Aptosid isn't an RT kernel.
Perhaps a downgrade will solve the issue on your
machine too. 60 Hz
vertically is unhealthy.
Yup bugs my eyes. My monitor was doing 1280x10124 @ 87HZ before the
kernel upgrade ... When I checked, the Nouveau driver isn't even
installed on the machine. I saw some bug reports for the Nouveau driver
at debian.org saying something about the kernel preventing the driver
from getting EDIT info from the monitor, so the driver assumes a save
1024x768x60hz. Sigh.
I can use video=1280x1024 on the kernel command line to get that
resolution, but it's still using 60hz refresh.
So I set my previous kernel to be GRUBs default and will only select
2.6.39 when I need to.