15 Nov
2006
15 Nov
'06
5:43 a.m.
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 03:17, Brad Fuller was like:
Forest Bond wrote:
Under Debian apt-get dist-upgrade often does the trick, but it's best to
comment out all but one main repository for it to work cleanly. You really
should hustle the Fedora devs on this issue.
--
cheers,
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
We are the people We've been waiting for.
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 05:30:11PM -0800, Brad
Fuller wrote:
Upgrading applications is easy as pie on Fedora, as long as you get the
right repos. I use Smart Manager and it's very nice, once you get it setup.
My concern is not applications, but the distro itself. If there was a
way to upgrade from FC5 to FC6 using Smart Manager, I'd try it. But, I
didn't know there was a way. I've always had to wipe the disc clean and
start over. I tried upgrading from FC3->FC4 using the CDROMs, but it
never worked quite right. I actually tried a few times. I even tried
FC4->FC5 from the CDROMs. But, always had to start from scratch. every time there is a new Fedora Core, I usually
get around to moving to
the next version. However, for me, it's a bit of a pain to do because
you really have to wipe the disc and start all over.. ."upgrading"
Fedora doesn't really work well. At least for me it doesn't.
Don't you find this a bit irritating? I do. It's not hard, it just seems
unnecessary.
I don't know why people tolerate this sort of thing. Debian and Ubuntu
have _always_ upgraded well for me. These are projects that recognize
that one of the most important (if not _the_ most important)
responsibilty of a distribution is dependency management, including
versioned dependencies through upgrades.
I recently started maintaining a RHEL server at work, and up2date is one
of the crudest tools I've ever seen. It just barely does anything right
at all.
I guess I've just been spoiled by apt-get, aptitude, synaptic,
update-manager, et. al... (And the package maintainers for the
above-mentioned projects -- package managers need good data to do their
jobs well).