On Thu, 28 Jul, 2005 at 12:31PM +0200, Burkhard Woelfel spake thus:
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 On Thursday 07 July 2005 18:01, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
  On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 04:06:55PM +0100,
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
  Interesting.  I have played with loops like you
suggest, but I use a
 tracker and the offset command.  One I did a long time ago is at
 
http://dis-dot-dat.net/content/music/dasub.ogg
 For some reason, I never thought of creating a loop myself and then
 pulling the same trick.  Now that you've said it, it seems like the
 obvious thing to try.
 Thanks for that.
 Oh, and my only ever attempt at doing it all by hand:
 
http://dis-dot-dat.net/content/music/dn505.ogg 
 Doesn't sound like you could learn much about breakbeats from me ;-)
 Nice tracks.
 Only one suggestion: try to layer beats, use 2 pairs of snare and
 kick.
 Thorsten Wilms 
 Improvising rhythms with my mouth, recording 8- to 16 bar periods and
 rewriting them with an instrument is a technique I like.
 Freewheeling might be a nice tool for that. I use a dictaphone with a
 professional player to transcribe it, one of these machines with a foot
 switch.
 The approach "makes the sheet less white" for me, gives the beat a natural
 gesture. The rest of the job kind of crossword puzzle hacking - something to
 get you through the night ;-) 
I like this idea.  I can't help but hum and beatbox my way through
imaginary music, or even along with what I'm listening to, so this
would probably work OK for me.
When I wrote ATT, I'd spent all morning humming the bass and
beatboxing the beat, but I never thought of trying to translate from
that into the music in such a pure way.  I actually sat there doing it
in slow motion and trying to work out what I was actually doing.
Which all seems strange, because I can work up a complex beat with my
mouth, but have trouble knowing exactly what it's made of.
Oh, and I'm being immodest calling what I do betaboxing - it's more
like rhythmical salivation, but the rhythm's there.
  BTW, nice to see all the music and collaboration
efforts going. Good stuff!
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