On Mon, 04 Jul, 2005 at 08:36AM -0600, Steve D spake thus:
  On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 09:02:38AM +0100,
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
 [...] That, and I
 can't separate making music and producing music.  To me, "over
 produced" is like saying "over musical".  Which is nonsense. 
 To me, any creative act or exercise is like the attempted realization of
 an ideal of some sort. The conceptual ideal must exist first. In the
 attempt to realize or materialize that ideal, there often can be reached
 a point at which further effort can make the product less rather than
 more an embodiment of the ideal.
 Any good artist needs to know when to stop fiddling and fussing with his
 or her work (at least for a time), or risk marring it with overwork. ;-)
 That's what I personally meant by "overproduction."
  Anyway.  I loved the track, but the sounds grate
a little.
 Just a thought though - how old are you (Steve)? 
 I'm old James: 53 this year.  Regarding the sounds in that Lonesome
 Butte piece being "grating," maybe I'm losing some of my hearing in some
 frequency ranges. Do the sounds have too much a sharp high-frequency
 edge? 
No, nothing like that.  Don't take this the wrong way but it sounds
like the supermarket midi rendition of a great track.
It's still great, but the sounds are just too cheesy.  Then again, you
did say you were after that kind of sounds, so I suppose it's a
success.
  It could be a generational thing - I'm 26 and
I've listened to
 overproduced music all my life.  Most of the kind of music I listen to
 seems to have over production built in from the outset.  Although I
 wouldn't call it over production - I'd just say it's making what would
 traditionally be called production into just another musical device. 
 That seems like a valid viewpoint. Production as a creative activity.
 ;-)
 -sd 
 
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