28 Feb
2006
28 Feb
'06
7:15 p.m.
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 14:19 -0800, Maluvia wrote:
In fact, this is a good place to mention something I
have noticed for a
long time on these lists:
There seems to be an attitude prevalent among some of the long-time members
here of - shall we say - 'impatience' with newcomers - especially those who
are not of the programmer variety.
I have seen newcomers post on these lists (I mean here all 4 of them), with
great enthusiasm and excitement - happy to have discovered Linux Audio or
Ardour, full of eager, albeit 'newbie', questions or problems, and have
seen a number of them treated with irritation, sometimes bordering on open
contempt and disdain.
I honestly don't think you realize how you often sound to others - and
since I am already in disfavor, I have nothing to lose by bringing it up
now.
I came in here as a stone cold newbie asking stupid questions and
was given friendly, courteous advice that helped me get going. I don't
see this bias that you are talking about. If anything I see the
opposite.
But I have also come to recognize a behavior we both
have - which may be
universal - where there is an *initial* tendency to think that anything
that sounds different sounds better, or whatever sounds louder sounds
'better'. (Kind of like the Pepsi challenge thing, I guess.)
But we are well aware of this tendency, and you can get past it and train
yourself to listen more carefully - to specific frequency bands, for
example, or specific effect paramaters, etc. etc. and eventually get to a
more objective headspace with your listening.
Certainly part of the challenge of the art and science of being an audio
engineer.
I think you're absolutely right on this one. It's pretty much a
universal behavior and *really* difficult to overcome.
I was interested in trying to become a more active
participant in the
community, but it is feeling rather hostile and counterproductive.
Just because it stirs things up doesn't mean it's hostile (or
counterproductive for that matter). It's very difficult to tell
someone's feelings/attitude from an email. We've had plenty of flaming
threads on this list (I think I may have been involved in one or two
myself - nah, couldn't have been me ;-)
--
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