Re: [LAU] Re: That must suck. For me it's about beauty -- music is just one path

El Mié 04 Abr 2007 10:04, Ismael Valladolid Torres escribió: | Marcos Guglielmetti escribe: | > Maybe noise is beauty... I dont know... the sounds of the ocean are like | > noice, just like the wind too... I think this is beautiful, but, because | > I dont like the car's, bus, planes, trains, etc., sounds, I think there | > is almost no beauty into the industrial age sounds (factories, etc.) | > | > So... when I try to make what I call music, I try to put some beauty on | > it... maybe a wind sound could be nice for some parts, but I will try to | > include melodies because the occidental's traditional concepts are into | > my life, my feelings. | > | > it's a long subject... | | But it's a nice one. | | Masami Akita from Merzbow says: "If by noise you mean uncomfortable | sound, then pop music is noise to me". Almost all of our contemporary music is a product of "the noise age", the industrial age... it is electrical based music, it could not never see the light from an agriculture society... it's uncomfortable to be exploded by a capitalist... for a worker on a factory , this is really uncomfortable. Also, it was uncomfortable to be exploded by a feudal lord, or to be an slave in Rome or in any society... I think that there is a relationship between the production modal of an age and the music produced into this age... this is the most noisy age, I think, because of the production mode: our ears were educated into a city environment, not into an agriculture one, so maybe we have a tendency to need louder songs, noisy instruments... here, the electric and distorted guitar is the Queen, and the cello could be only a pawn. | You've discovered the point. Men are capable of creating beauty but | unfortunately nature is much more capable. I agree | The harder you try to | create simply "beauty" the harder will be later discovering that | regarding beauty nature always win. But: I am not running a race against nature, it's not a competence: that would be the reproduction of the dominant ideology, I just want to make music and feel fine with it ;-), even if the nature will allways win in beauty matters... I like nature to win, there is no other option... so... | Gladly after expresionism exists, it became clear that it's the | mission of art to go beyond beauty. This is what Picasso, Duchamp, | Matisse, Malevich, Rothko and many others teached us. Well, that could be right | I am not pretending to say that a Picasso painting is more beautiful | than a Vermeer one. I am just saying it's more human. Because it tries | to show feelings nature's uncapable to show. I dont believe it's more human, but only in the bad way... it's more human to admire the nature, or it's more human to conquer it? it's right to be more human or it's better to be more natural? | What about futurism!? Italian artists at the beggining of past century | decided that what was previously accepted as beauty was no longer | valid. And many of them liked the war, and many of them were into the fascism, and died in wars... that's not good | After the industrial revolution, beauty lies on speed and | noise. Their artistic works were amazing, again, going far beyond | "beauty". All this age is amazing: look, we are destroying "our" world: that's not amazing? | Cordially, Ismael Ironically, Marcos ;-) -- Marcos Guglielmetti * Director del desarrollo de Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre * CD Download: (http://www.musix.org.ar/en/) * Colabora: http://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Musix099_tasks * Videos, programas y otras cosas en: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/ * Reporte de errores a: https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php?title=Problemas-Bugs *IRC: #musix channel on freenode * http://autosus.wordpress.com/ «No te tomes en serio nada que no te haga reír» [un amigo de E. Galeano]