9 Oct
2003
9 Oct
'03
11:50 p.m.
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 15:46, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
I back you on this Frank. It's roughly equivalent to gpl'ing code. At
least from a philosophical perspective if not legal. Anyone who tries to
pass off an open source ogg release as their own music is just lame but
they should be encouraged to sample it and rework it to their hearts
content. I just wish flac was more widely accepted but that ain't gonna
happen.
Patrick,
I didn't understand your point. I didn't think we were talking about
passing other people's music off as our own. I thought we were saying
that Windows users cannot listen to ogg files without making adjustments
to their systems.
I guess I just didn't follow your point.
Cheers,
Mark
Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Hallo,
> Mark Knecht hat gesagt: // Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>
>> And on the other hand, Linux based musicians who *want* their music to be
>>heard are cutting their nose off not making it extremely available through
>>mp3s. Frankly, independent of the perceived advantages of .ogg over mp3
>>(open source, sounds better, no licensing issues or royalty payments) it's
>>just good business to make your product usable by more people. That leads to
>>good stuff. Forcing people to go to .ogg seems like it's backwards to the
>>open source movement.
>
>
> I disagree. I see a necessity in trying to force people to use ogg or
> any other free (as speech) codec, before "digital rights protected"
> codecs get more widely used. It's politics, but I think it important.
> Mp3 is not an alternative here, because there already are more
> powerful commercial and DRM enabled codecs available and it is an
> important task to not let these take over.
Frank,
I acknowledge your right to have this opinion, but it isn't going to
change the basic fact that if a Windows user doesn't know how to listen
to your ogg, he isn't going to hear it.
I think the real job to be done is to make ogg a standard that's
accepted by M$ one fo these days and just included in their Media Player
releases, so the user doesn't have to figure this stuff out. As I said,
I went 15 years without bothering until today. (Of course, I am a bit
slow!) ;-)
Mark