3 Apr
2011
3 Apr
'11
9:54 p.m.
Am 03.04.2011 18:46, schrieb Patrick Shirkey:
The poisoning is the cancer. But: Plutonium has a very high
melting-point and it is the heaviest material known to be stable, it is
not good in spreading.
That is absolutely true. And to say, that this is the End of the world
does not help them in any way to get along with that desaster.
On 04/04/2011 01:51 AM, Arnold Krille wrote:
No, it would not.
The greatest challenge whe building an atom-bomb is not to get enough
clean fissable material, It s the the question: "How fast can you raise
the mass from non-critical to critical?" Any mass of plutonium that
gathers to a critical mass with the speed that is feasible by mere
gravitation will simply go off in a *slow* burst of radiation.
That would be catastrophic for the area around the place where this
happens but it will happen without a explosion.
On Sunday 03 April 2011 10:56:38 Patrick Shirkey
wrote:
How say you? Has anyone modelled how much non compressed Plutonium is
required for it to go to critical. Considering that it is melting
through the earths crust at more than 5000 deg C and it only takes a few
kilos of fuel to create Kilo Tons of explosive force it is a fairly high
risk of a worst case scenario whereby the much denser plutonium
seperates out and goes boom. On 04/02/2011 09:46 PM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
The fact that there
is not enough material there to form a critical mass.
Am 02.04.2011 05:27, schrieb Patrick Shirkey:
> more time to enjoy your remaining days on this planet until the
> nuclear
> cloud of death from the impending atomic explosion at Fukushima of
> 1760
> metric tonnes of radioactive fuel blankets the earth and kills us all.
Could you elaborate on that?
What makes you think, radioactive fuel could blow up in a "atomic
explosion"?
What makes you think it couldn't? Given how bad it is already I would not be
surprised if it did go to critical and consume the whole facility.
I think it is absolutely unacceptable, that TEPCO did not start to build
a sarcophagus the first day after the tsunami.
Although I have it on good authority that it is more
likely to just
explode with the force of a conventional weapon instead.
This could be a simple hydrogen-explosion as had happened 2 days after
the tsunami. Catastrophic for the area yet not for the whole northern
hemisphere.
Even if it only
makes it to that point it would make a very big mess. I'm hoping for it
to burn it's way deep enough into the crust so that it will effectively
be an underground nuclear test if it takes off.
So say we all...
I shudder to think of
the results if it is close enough to the surface to escape into the
atmosphere or ignite the whole facility.
There is nothing to ignite -- concrete does not burn and the fuel in the
facility is burning already.
The stuff in an atomic reactor is not as clean
and dangerous as the
stuff needed
for an atomic bomb.
There is more than enough Pu-239 in the melted cores each containing 160
- 180 metric tonnes of fuel to create a serious problem. In addition
reactor 3 had 5% enriched MOX to start with. That still leaves 890
metric tonnes of "spent" fuel rods which essentially means lots of
Pu-239...
The problem with the reactor material is when
something else blows up and
spreads the radioactive material like a dirty bomb (this is also what
happened
25 years ago).
You mean like on Saturday 12 March or Sunday 13 March? Why do you think
the Ronald Regan decided to haul arse out of the vicinity and then
immediately swab the decks? It's not cause they were worried about a
little Cesium or Iodine that's for sure!
Another problem is that even the non-radioactive
plutonium and
uran are chemically bad stuff and poisonous for biological things.
Yep. Injesting Pu-239 will poison you first before you get cancer. Just
see Litvenenko for the results of that problem. However walking into a
cloud of Cesium or Iodine which is currently blanketing The US and
Europe will also cause you significant issues.
There is nothing even close to the clouds from the Tchernobyl-desaster
as of now. And there are people living today even in Kiev. Berlin is as
near to Tchernobyl as Kyushu is to Fukushima and we are still alive too...
Remember that just cos
the total amount of it is dispersed that doesn't mean it was dispersed
evenly. If I was in the Northern Hemisphere I would be staying away from
diary, meat and foods grown outside for the next few months and keep in
mind that Cesium has a half life of 30 years but the full life is more
like 300 years...
Dont get me wrong: the Fukushima case is indeed a catastrophe, that will
have its impact upon the whole earth. But it is not a EOTW-event. It is
one more good reason not to eat sea-fish though. But first and foremost
it is another evidence for the fact, that buisinessmen have too much
power in this world.
Carpe diem,
At least time is relative :-)
My heart goes out to the Japanese in this tragedy. They are the ones
suffering the greatest pain right now. It's absolutely categorically
heart breaking. I don't know how the elite can be so cruel to require
Fukushima as clandestine weapons program when there are already enough
nukes to kill us all anyway.
So you see yourself that there is no logic in such a "clandestine
weapons program" and still believe, there is one?
It just defies all logic and rationale.
exactly
best regards.
Something needs to change! This failed system we call the global
military industrial complex and their puppet governments is a complete
disaster!