7 Jun
2009
7 Jun
'09
3:44 p.m.
I wonder what the command line folks do here for CD duplication. I
need to duplicate some new studio CDs for listening in different
environment. The CDs require gapless writing - no 2 second gap - as
some songs flow from track to track. They also should support CD Text.
In the past I've done this stuff in k3b but for some reason many of
the copies of new CD-Rs I'm receiving aren't playing in my car stereo.
Strange as the original CD-Rs play perfectly. I've tried 4 different
media types. It's always the same CD-R copies that fail. My copies
work elsewhere - Windows iTunes ripping, my home CD player, my wife's
car - just not my car.
How do folks get bit-perfect CDs and what extra steps can I take to
get these tough CD-R copies to play? Write slower, libparanoia, what
else?
As I'm not a CLI guy at all if you can provide some test commands for
me to play with I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks,
Mark
P.S. - I have also tried cleaning the car CD player with one of those
special discs but it didn't help. - MWK
P.S.2. - Doesn't *have* to be CLI, but I think I'd like to do it that
way so I can try it in Cygwin also. - MWK again... ;-)
7 Jun
7 Jun
3:54 p.m.
Hi!
I usually use cdrecord (aka wodim), and I know there cdrdao, but I never got
it to work properly with my IDE CD-drive. I compiled my own kernel and it
doesn't have IDE-SCSI emulation. That might be a problem. I know that cdrdao
can do gapless and cdrecord should be able to do that as well. But I don't
know how. But these are the alternatives in the console I know of. Sorry I
couldn't be of more help.
Kindest regards
Julien
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4:11 p.m.
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Julien Claassen<julien(a)c-lab.de> wrote:
Hi!
I usually use cdrecord (aka wodim), and I know there cdrdao, but I never
got it to work properly with my IDE CD-drive. I compiled my own kernel and
it doesn't have IDE-SCSI emulation. That might be a problem. I know that
cdrdao can do gapless and cdrecord should be able to do that as well. But I
don't know how. But these are the alternatives in the console I know of.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Kindest regards
Julien
Thanks Julien. These are the ones I'm also looking at, along with
cdda2wav. I'd like to go command line because I've had a few problems
in Linux, one of which Joerg Schilling (sp?) says may be related to a
long-standing SCSI bug in the kernel, but from my early tests doesn't
show up at all under Cygwin.
k3b seems to use:
/usr/bin/cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/hda speed=40 -raw96r
driveropts=burnfree -clone -eject /home/mark/backups/k3b_0.img
to build an image file for what that program calls a Clone. I then see this:
/usr/bin/readcd -v dev=/dev/hda f=/home/mark/backups/k3b_0.img -clone
retries=128 ts=128k
I suspect to write the CD-Rs that aren't working in my car.
Anyway, I've played with a few commands and gotten data on disk, but I
haven't tried writing anything to CD-R yet.
Also, look into
readcd -c2scan
cdrecord -minfo
for testing the quality of what's on CD, along with lots of other
command line variations.
Again, thanks for the interest.
Cheers,
Mark
P.S. - Seems like Dave should have written this up years ago in the
Linux Journal. Probably he did! ;-)
4:33 p.m.
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Mark Knecht<markknecht(a)gmail.com> wrote:
- FOLLOW-UP
<SNIP>
k3b seems to use:
/usr/bin/cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/hda speed=40 -raw96r
driveropts=burnfree -clone -eject /home/mark/backups/k3b_0.img
to build an image file for what that program calls a Clone. I then see this:
/usr/bin/readcd -v dev=/dev/hda f=/home/mark/backups/k3b_0.img -clone
retries=128 ts=128k
I suspect to write the CD-Rs that aren't working in my car.
<SNIP>
Obviously I have the two commands above backwards.
Clone read of CD:
readcd -v dev=/dev/hda f=/home/mark/backups/k3b_0.img -clone retries=128 ts=128k
The use of the readcd -clone option puts the whole disk info into a single file.
Clone write of CD:
cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/hda speed=40 -raw96r
driveropts=burnfree -clone -eject /home/mark/backups/k3b_0.img
The -raw96r option tells cdrecord it's reading a Clone type file.
According to the man page gracetime=2 is not allowed as it's below a
minimum of 3.
burnfree is write drive dependent.
- Mark
11:15 p.m.
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Mark Knecht<markknecht(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Mark
Knecht<markknecht(a)gmail.com> wrote:
- FOLLOW-UP
<SNIP>
So does anyone use cdrecord with the info obtained by cdda2wav to
write CDs? Here's the files:
Mark@gamer ~
$ ls aud*
audio.cddb audio_02.wav audio_05.inf audio_07.wav audio_10.inf
audio.cdindex audio_03.inf audio_05.wav audio_08.inf audio_10.wav
audio_01.inf audio_03.wav audio_06.inf audio_08.wav audio_11.inf
audio_01.wav audio_04.inf audio_06.wav audio_09.inf audio_11.wav
audio_02.inf audio_04.wav audio_07.inf audio_09.wav
Mark@gamer ~
Mark@gamer ~
$ cat audio.cddb
# xmcd
#
# Track frame offsets:
#
# 150
# 23177
# 44320
# 63367
# 76837
# 117555
# 132102
# 142832
# 162057
# 186125
# 217632
#
# Disc length: 3521 seconds
#
# Revision: 0
# Submitted via: cdda2wav 2.01.01a60_cygwin32_nt_1.5.25(0.156-4-2)_i686_i686
DISCID=870dbf0b
DTITLE=IZZ / Sliver of a Sun
DYEAR=
DGENRE=
TTITLE0=Endless Calling
TTITLE1=I Get Lost
TTITLE2=Lornadoone
TTITLE3=She Walked Out the Door
TTITLE4=Assurance
TTITLE5=Take it Higher
TTITLE6=Double Bass
TTITLE7=Just a Girl
TTITLE8=Meteor
TTITLE9=Razor
TTITLE10=Where I Belong
EXTD=
EXTT0=
EXTT1=
EXTT2=
EXTT3=
EXTT4=
EXTT5=
EXTT6=
EXTT7=
EXTT8=
EXTT9=
EXTT10=
PLAYORDER=
Mark@gamer ~
$
Mark@gamer ~
$ cat audio.cdindex
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE CDInfo SYSTEM "http://www.musicbrainz.org/dtd/CDInfo.dtd">
<CDInfo>
<Title>Sliver of a Sun</Title>
<NumTracks>11</NumTracks>
<IdInfo>
<DiskId>
<Id>YasSG0mWGVxInJOH.LN2lnPcBoY-</Id>
</DiskId>
</IdInfo>
<SingleArtistCD>
<Artist>IZZ</Artist>
<Track Num="1">
<Name>Endless Calling</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="2">
<Name>I Get Lost</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="3">
<Name>Lornadoone</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="4">
<Name>She Walked Out the Door</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="5">
<Name>Assurance</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="6">
<Name>Take it Higher</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="7">
<Name>Double Bass</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="8">
<Name>Just a Girl</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="9">
<Name>Meteor</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="10">
<Name>Razor</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="11">
<Name>Where I Belong</Name>
</Track>
</SingleArtistCD>
</CDInfo>
Mark@gamer ~
$
Mark@gamer ~
$ cat audio_01.inf
#created by cdda2wav 2.01.01a60_cygwin32_nt_1.5.25(0.156-4-2)_i686_i686 06/07/09
17:08:52
#
CDINDEX_DISCID= 'YasSG0mWGVxInJOH.LN2lnPcBoY-'
CDDB_DISCID= 0x870dbf0b
MCN=
ISRC= 0P-400-12-00051
#
Albumperformer= 'IZZ'
Performer= 'IZZ'
Albumtitle= 'Sliver of a Sun'
Tracktitle= 'Endless Calling'
Tracknumber= 1
Trackstart= 0
# track length in sectors (1/75 seconds each), rest samples
Tracklength= 23027, 0
Pre-emphasis= no
Channels= 2
Copy_permitted= once (copyright protected)
Endianess= little
# index list
Index= 0
Index0= -1
# md5 sum
MD5-offset= 44
Mark@gamer ~
$
What's the process of writing the CD with this information that links
the copy I build up to cddb, has the right text for track names and
artist, etc.?
Thanks,
Mark
k3b seems to use:
/usr/bin/cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/hda speed=40 -raw96r
driveropts=burnfree -clone -eject /home/mark/backups/k3b_0.img
to build an image file for what that program calls a Clone. I then see this:
/usr/bin/readcd -v dev=/dev/hda f=/home/mark/backups/k3b_0.img -clone
retries=128 ts=128k
I suspect to write the CD-Rs that aren't working in my car.
<SNIP>
Obviously I have the two commands above backwards.
Clone read of CD:
readcd -v dev=/dev/hda f=/home/mark/backups/k3b_0.img -clone retries=128 ts=128k
The use of the readcd -clone option puts the whole disk info into a single file.
Clone write of CD:
cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/hda speed=40 -raw96r
driveropts=burnfree -clone -eject /home/mark/backups/k3b_0.img
The -raw96r option tells cdrecord it's reading a Clone type file.
According to the man page gracetime=2 is not allowed as it's below a
minimum of 3.
burnfree is write drive dependent.
- Mark
8 Jun
8 Jun
12:02 a.m.
On 06/08/2009 08:15 AM, Mark Knecht wrote:
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Mark
Knecht<markknecht(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Mark Knecht<markknecht(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> - FOLLOW-UP
>
> <SNIP>
>
>> k3b seems to use:
>>
>> /usr/bin/cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/hda speed=40 -raw96r
>> driveropts=burnfree -clone -eject /home/mark/backups/k3b_0.img
>>
>> to build an image file for what that program calls a Clone. I then see this:
>>
>> /usr/bin/readcd -v dev=/dev/hda f=/home/mark/backups/k3b_0.img -clone
>> retries=128 ts=128k
>>
>> I suspect to write the CD-Rs that aren't working in my car.
>>
> <SNIP>
>
> Obviously I have the two commands above backwards.
>
> Clone read of CD:
>
> readcd -v dev=/dev/hda f=/home/mark/backups/k3b_0.img -clone retries=128 ts=128k
>
> The use of the readcd -clone option puts the whole disk info into a single file.
>
> Clone write of CD:
>
> cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/hda speed=40 -raw96r
> driveropts=burnfree -clone -eject /home/mark/backups/k3b_0.img
>
>
I'm not sure about the clone function. I usually use cdda2wav ||
cdrecord. I always use cdrecord -dao -useinfo for gapless tracks.
There is also an option for reading a toc file. It's somewhere in the
--help section. You can also check the cdrecord website for a complete
instruction manual and howto.
hth
The -raw96r
option tells cdrecord it's reading a Clone type file.
According to the man page gracetime=2 is not allowed as it's below a
minimum of 3.
burnfree is write drive dependent.
- Mark
So does anyone use cdrecord with the info obtained by cdda2wav to
write CDs? Here's the files:
Mark@gamer ~
$ ls aud*
audio.cddb audio_02.wav audio_05.inf audio_07.wav audio_10.inf
audio.cdindex audio_03.inf audio_05.wav audio_08.inf audio_10.wav
audio_01.inf audio_03.wav audio_06.inf audio_08.wav audio_11.inf
audio_01.wav audio_04.inf audio_06.wav audio_09.inf audio_11.wav
audio_02.inf audio_04.wav audio_07.inf audio_09.wav
Mark@gamer ~
Mark@gamer ~
$ cat audio.cddb
# xmcd
#
# Track frame offsets:
#
# 150
# 23177
# 44320
# 63367
# 76837
# 117555
# 132102
# 142832
# 162057
# 186125
# 217632
#
# Disc length: 3521 seconds
#
# Revision: 0
# Submitted via: cdda2wav 2.01.01a60_cygwin32_nt_1.5.25(0.156-4-2)_i686_i686
DISCID=870dbf0b
DTITLE=IZZ / Sliver of a Sun
DYEAR=
DGENRE=
TTITLE0=Endless Calling
TTITLE1=I Get Lost
TTITLE2=Lornadoone
TTITLE3=She Walked Out the Door
TTITLE4=Assurance
TTITLE5=Take it Higher
TTITLE6=Double Bass
TTITLE7=Just a Girl
TTITLE8=Meteor
TTITLE9=Razor
TTITLE10=Where I Belong
EXTD=
EXTT0=
EXTT1=
EXTT2=
EXTT3=
EXTT4=
EXTT5=
EXTT6=
EXTT7=
EXTT8=
EXTT9=
EXTT10=
PLAYORDER=
Mark@gamer ~
$
Mark@gamer ~
$ cat audio.cdindex
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE CDInfo SYSTEM "http://www.musicbrainz.org/dtd/CDInfo.dtd">
<CDInfo>
<Title>Sliver of a Sun</Title>
<NumTracks>11</NumTracks>
<IdInfo>
<DiskId>
<Id>YasSG0mWGVxInJOH.LN2lnPcBoY-</Id>
</DiskId>
</IdInfo>
<SingleArtistCD>
<Artist>IZZ</Artist>
<Track Num="1">
<Name>Endless Calling</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="2">
<Name>I Get Lost</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="3">
<Name>Lornadoone</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="4">
<Name>She Walked Out the Door</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="5">
<Name>Assurance</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="6">
<Name>Take it Higher</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="7">
<Name>Double Bass</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="8">
<Name>Just a Girl</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="9">
<Name>Meteor</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="10">
<Name>Razor</Name>
</Track>
<Track Num="11">
<Name>Where I Belong</Name>
</Track>
</SingleArtistCD>
</CDInfo>
Mark@gamer ~
$
Mark@gamer ~
$ cat audio_01.inf
#created by cdda2wav 2.01.01a60_cygwin32_nt_1.5.25(0.156-4-2)_i686_i686 06/07/09
17:08:52
#
CDINDEX_DISCID= 'YasSG0mWGVxInJOH.LN2lnPcBoY-'
CDDB_DISCID= 0x870dbf0b
MCN=
ISRC= 0P-400-12-00051
#
Albumperformer= 'IZZ'
Performer= 'IZZ'
Albumtitle= 'Sliver of a Sun'
Tracktitle= 'Endless Calling'
Tracknumber= 1
Trackstart= 0
# track length in sectors (1/75 seconds each), rest samples
Tracklength= 23027, 0
Pre-emphasis= no
Channels= 2
Copy_permitted= once (copyright protected)
Endianess= little
# index list
Index= 0
Index0= -1
# md5 sum
MD5-offset= 44
Mark@gamer ~
$
What's the process of writing the CD with this information that links
the copy I build up to cddb, has the right text for track names and
artist, etc.?
Thanks,
Mark
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12:54 a.m.
Mark Knecht wrote:
I wonder what the command line folks do here for CD
duplication. I
need to duplicate some new studio CDs for listening in different
environment. The CDs require gapless writing - no 2 second gap - as
some songs flow from track to track. They also should support CD Text.
In the past I've done this stuff in k3b but for some reason many of
the copies of new CD-Rs I'm receiving aren't playing in my car stereo.
Strange as the original CD-Rs play perfectly. I've tried 4 different
media types. It's always the same CD-R copies that fail. My copies
work elsewhere - Windows iTunes ripping, my home CD player, my wife's
car - just not my car.
How do folks get bit-perfect CDs and what extra steps can I take to
get these tough CD-R copies to play? Write slower, libparanoia, what
else?
As I'm not a CLI guy at all if you can provide some test commands for
me to play with I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks,
Mark
P.S. - I have also tried cleaning the car CD player with one of those
special discs but it didn't help. - MWK
P.S.2. - Doesn't *have* to be CLI, but I think I'd like to do it that
way so I can try it in Cygwin also. - MWK again... ;-)
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I've used K3b quite a few times to copy commercial CDs to play on the PA
at the pub where I work. Too much change of damage or loss to take the
original.
Burn at the slowest speed possible and use Exact Copy not Clone Copy.
Roger
11:10 a.m.
Quoting Mark Knecht <markknecht(a)gmail.com>om>:
I wonder what the command line folks do here for CD
duplication. I
need to duplicate some new studio CDs for listening in different
environment. The CDs require gapless writing - no 2 second gap - as
some songs flow from track to track. They also should support CD Text.
In the past I've done this stuff in k3b but for some reason many of
the copies of new CD-Rs I'm receiving aren't playing in my car stereo.
Strange as the original CD-Rs play perfectly. I've tried 4 different
media types. It's always the same CD-R copies that fail. My copies
work elsewhere - Windows iTunes ripping, my home CD player, my wife's
car - just not my car.
First, make sure to lower the writing speed. I'd use x8 or something.
And some car stereos are more sensitive than others.
As for CLI rip/burn I just tried this (from the wodim manpage):
"To copy an audio CD in the most accurate way, first run
'icedax dev=/dev/cdrom -vall cddb=0 -B -Owav'
and then run
'wodim dev=/dev/cdrw -v -dao -useinfo -text *.wav'
This will try to copy track indices and to read CD-Text information
from disk. If there is no CD-Text information, icedax will try to get
the information from freedb.org instead"
You might need to adjust the device names to suite your setup.
I don't know (and I doubt it) if icedax is more accurate than
cdparanoia but it seems to be the only "easy" way of ripping cd-text.
I also haven't verified if it's really gapless but the -dao should
indicate it.
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