El Lunes, 2 de Julio de 2007 19:15, Paul Winkler escribió: | Sounds very nice! This is great work. | | My one criticism is that listening to the demo on headphones, the | panning sounds a bit abrupt at times, eg. when playing a descending | chromatic scale. | | -PW Yes, there is a LOT of work to do yet, for instance, this soundfont uses only C and G notes, as the former version [1]. I would like to use all the samples from the IMIS (and to remove some noises with gnome_wave_cleaner) and to loop them, but this will need a lot of work, so... I hope I (or someone else) could have time to do it in the future.[2] Also: we have 3 layers: pp, mf and ff, but the pp was not used yet because of its noise. [3] Thanks for the report, we need this kind of things: it's not so difficult to fix pan problems. [1] Acoustic piano soundfont (released), {first version} [Freepats] Acoustic piano soundfont (released) De: Roberto Gordo Saez <roberto.gordo(a)gmail.com> Para: freepats(a)opensrc.org Fecha: 10/03/07 18:07   Here it is, a soundfont using IMIS samples: http://zenvoid.org/i/audio.html I've deleted most samples, because it was very hard to get a minimum balance in all of them at a time, and also I've noticed that many original samples can't be used because they contain noticeable clicks or noises... as a result, size is reduced to only 38MiB. Currently it does sound OK on simple compositions, but it clearly fails with others more complex. There is much to do until it can be compared to the quality of some proprietary soundfonts. Before downloading, you can listen to the provided example music to decide if it is suitable for your purposes. I'll try to keep that page updated, and to add more examples and comparisons. The soundfont is built with the new pysf utility by Ben Collver (thanks for providing support for stereo samples, Ben), so it is very easy to get lower quality soundfonts when needed, using a script. This is a "to do" list for the soundfont:  - Volume envelopes, adjust volume across samples so they are neutral.    This is a huge task, and can make a big difference in quality when    done right.  - More layers are needed. Currently, only mp (medium) samples are used.    Using ff (strong) and pp (very soft) samples with different    velocities would produce more realistic sound.  - Put more (all?) samples per octave in the greatest quality version. Probably I won't be able to ever complete those tasks alone, so if you are reading this and are interested in having one day a quality free/open instrument set, please, help. [2]A list of samples from the Piano.ff.A0.aif Piano.ff.Ab2.aif Piano.ff.Bb0.aif Piano.ff.C2.aif Piano.ff.Db1.aif Piano.ff.F1.aif Piano.ff.A1.aif Piano.ff.B0.aif Piano.ff.Bb1.aif Piano.ff.C3.aif Piano.ff.Db2.aif Piano.ff.G1.aif Piano.ff.A2.aif Piano.ff.B1.aif Piano.ff.Bb2.aif Piano.ff.C8.aiff Piano.ff.E1.aif Piano.ff.G2.aif Piano.ff.A7.aiff Piano.ff.B2.aif Piano.ff.Bb7.aiff Piano.ff.D1.aif Piano.ff.E2.aif Piano.ff.Gb1.aif Piano.ff.Ab1.aif Piano.ff.B7.aiff Piano.ff.C1.aif Piano.ff.D2.aif Piano.ff.Eb1.aif Piano.ff.Gb2.aif Piano.mf.A1.aif Piano.mf.B0.aiff Piano.mf.Bb2.aif Piano.mf.C8.aiff Piano.mf.E1.aif Piano.mf.F2.aif Piano.mf.A2.aif Piano.mf.B1.aif Piano.mf.Bb7.aiff Piano.mf.D1.aif Piano.mf.E2.aif Piano.mf.G1.aif Piano.mf.Ab1.aif Piano.mf.B2.aif Piano.mf.C1.aif Piano.mf.D2.aif Piano.mf.Eb1.aif Piano.mf.G2.aif Piano.mf.Ab2.aif Piano.mf.B7.aiff Piano.mf.C2.aif Piano.mf.Db1.aif Piano.mf.Eb2.aif Piano.mf.Gb1.aif Piano.mf.B0.aif Piano.mf.Bb1.aif Piano.mf.C3.aif Piano.mf.Db2.aif Piano.mf.F1.aif Piano.mf.Gb2.aif Piano.pp.A1.aif Piano.pp.B2.aif Piano.pp.Bb7.aiff Piano.pp.D1.aif Piano.pp.E2.aif Piano.pp.G1.aif Piano.pp.Ab1.aif Piano.pp.B7.aiff Piano.pp.C1.aif Piano.pp.Db1.aif Piano.pp.Eb1.aif Piano.pp.G2.aif Piano.pp.Ab2.aif Piano.pp.Bb0.aif Piano.pp.C2.aif Piano.pp.Db2.aif Piano.pp.Eb2.aif Piano.pp.Gb1.aif Piano.pp.B0.aif Piano.pp.Bb1.aif Piano.pp.C3.aif Piano.pp.Db3.aif Piano.pp.F1.aif Piano.pp.Gb2.aif Piano.pp.B1.aif Piano.pp.Bb2.aif Piano.pp.C8.aiff Piano.pp.E1.aif Piano.pp.F2.aif [3] Re: [Freepats] Acoustic piano soundfont (released) De: "Roberto Gordo Saez" <roberto.gordo(a)gmail.com> Para: marcospcmusica(a)gmail.com CC: freepats(a)opensrc.org Fecha: 12/04/07 18:28 On 4/11/07, Marcos Guglielmetti <marcospcmusica(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi Marcos. I'm happy to know about you again. Currently it is a prototype. It has an interesting bug/feature: it does not have loops, the full note decay from piano sound is retained. It does sound more realistic, but samples are very big. I think adding loop points for the smaller version may help to shrink greatly the size without the need for too much sample rate reduction. You can also use your favorite sf2 editor as well. Pysf has an option to extract an xml description of the sf2, so you can modify the current sf2 file and then share your xml file, which is easier and much smaller than sending again the whole sf2. When we have a good fine tuned sf2 I think I can make a simple script to downsample wavs (maybe with sox) and build a new sf2 (lower size) with pysf using the previous xml. FYI, about the samples: they are cropped trying to retain samples with the largest possible length. I've cut when the piano sound is so soft that it is difficult to distinguish from background noise. Then, I've made some experimentation with normalize-audio, trying to give similar acoustical levels for all samples automatically, but has not worked well and I opted to give some minimal adjusts manually. There seems to be no magical way to adjust amplitude levels; some samples may have louder attack and others may have a louder sustain part. So a full amplitude envelope for each sample is still missing (at least for the super high quality sf2). I will publish the cropped samples somewhere, before my "pseudo normalization", for they to be easily reused. I'm also a little busy right now, so one month is also OK for me. Good luck with your work finishing Musix. Regards, | On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 01:53:06PM +0200, Marcos Guglielmetti wrote: | > A 75mb Steinway Piano Soundfont made with Swami for the Freepats project | > | > There is still a lot of work to do, this is the second soundfont we | > made. | > | > | > Download from: | > | > ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/sf2/Steinway_IMIS2_backup.sf2.bz2 | > | > ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/sf2/Steinway_IMIS2_backup.sf2_licen | >se.txt | > | > | > Under "DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE" Version 2 | > | > | > You can listen to a nice example here: | > | > http://www.musix.org.ar/tmp/swami/steinway_imis_2_layers2007-07-01T.ogg | > | > 11:42 minutes long | > | > | > | > If you want to collaborate, it would be nice to join: | > http://opensrc.org/listinfo/freepats | > | > | > More info: | > | > http://opensrc.org/pipermail/freepats/2007/000117.html | > http://freepats.opensrc.org/sf2/acoustic_piano_imis_samples/ | > | > | > Regards, | > | > | > -- | > `&' | > # Marcos Guglielmetti, co-director de | > # Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre para artistas | > _#_ http://www.musix.org.ar | > (#) | > / O \ + archivos: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix | > ( === ) Ecolog??a: http://autosus.wordpress.com | > `---' Personal: http://marcospcmusica.wordpress.com | > | > You see things; and you say 'Why?'; | > But I dream things that never were; | > and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw | > _______________________________________________ | > Linux-audio-user mailing list | > Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org | > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/linux-audio-user -- `&' # Marcos Guglielmetti, co-director de # Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre para artistas _#_ http://www.musix.org.ar (#) / O \ + archivos: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix ( === ) Ecología: http://autosus.wordpress.com `---' Personal: http://marcospcmusica.wordpress.com You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw

El Miércoles, 4 de Julio de 2007 21:51, Atte André Jensen escribió: | Marcos Guglielmetti wrote: | > Also: we have 3 layers: pp, mf and ff, but the pp was not used yet | > because of its noise. [3] | | If you're interrested I'd like to try to give it a go at reducing the | noise. Could you upload the samples somewhere? YES! They are all there: http://theremin.music.uiowa.edu/MIS.piano.html [1] And they are also into the freepats site. But, if you are talking only about the samples we (Roberto and me) used into the soundfont, I did not upload then yet. Despite of this, I just used the C and G samples, I normalized them, and croped some very long ones (40s --> 20s) You can extract them from the sf2 file using pysf.py Just for the record, I used this ones: marcos@musix1:/mnt/hda1/audio/samples$ ls piano_flac/mf/mfprocesados/ piano_mf_c1.wav piano_mf_c4.wav piano_mf_c7.wav piano_mf_g3.wav piano_mf_g6.wav piano_mf_c2.wav piano_mf_c5.wav piano_mf_g1.wav piano_mf_g4.wav piano_mf_c3.wav piano_mf_c6.wav piano_mf_g2.wav piano_mf_g5.wav ls piano_flac/ff/procesados/ Piano.ff.C1.wav Piano.ff.C4.wav Piano.ff.C7.wav Piano.ff.G2.wav Piano.ff.G5.wav Piano.ff.C2.wav Piano.ff.C5.wav Piano.ff.C8.wav Piano.ff.G3.wav Piano.ff.G6.wav Piano.ff.C3.wav Piano.ff.C6.wav Piano.ff.G1.wav Piano.ff.G4.wav Piano.ff.G7.wav Do you want me to upload them? I could compress them to flac and then I could upload... Regards, [1] Piano.pp.Bb0.aiff (6.0mb) Piano.ff.Bb0.aiff (9.4mb) Piano.pp.B0.aiff (5.7mb) Piano.mf.B0.aiff (5.3mb) Piano.ff.B0.aiff (9.2mb) Piano.pp.C1.aiff (5.6mb) Piano.mf.C1.aiff (5.7mb) Piano.ff.C1.aiff (8.4mb) Piano.pp.Db1.aiff (5.5mb) Piano.mf.Db1.aiff (6.0mb) Piano.ff.Db1.aiff (9.4mb) Piano.pp.D1.aiff (6.5mb) Piano.mf.D1.aiff (7.7mb) Piano.ff.D1.aiff (9.3mb) Piano.pp.Eb1.aiff (5.6mb) Piano.mf.Eb1.aiff (7.3mb) Piano.ff.Eb1.aiff (9.7mb) Piano.pp.E1.aiff (5.8mb) Piano.mf.E1.aiff (7.4mb) Piano.ff.E1.aiff (9.2mb) Piano.pp.F1.aiff (6.2mb) Piano.mf.F1.aiff (7.9mb) Piano.ff.F1.aiff (10mb) Piano.pp.Gb1.aiff (7.3mb) Piano.mf.Gb1.aiff (10.6mb) Piano.ff.Gb1.aiff (12.9mb) Piano.pp.G1.aiff (8.3mb) Piano.mf.G1.aiff (9.6mb) Piano.ff.G1.aiff (11.2mb) Piano.pp.Ab1.aiff (6.7mb) Piano.mf.Ab1.aiff (9.2mb) Piano.ff.Ab1.aiff (9.7mb) Piano.pp.A1.aiff (5.8mb) Piano.mf.A1.aiff (9.3mb) Piano.ff.A1.aiff (10mb) Piano.pp.Bb1.aiff (7.2mb) Piano.mf.Bb1.aiff (9.4mb) Piano.ff.Bb1.aiff (10.5mb) Piano.pp.B1.aiff 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that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw

On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 11:16:35PM +0100, Adam Sampson wrote: Really beautiful! Thanks!! Amazing song, voice and accompaniment. Wow! I think it really showcases this soundfont nicely too. James

El Martes, 3 de Julio de 2007 00:16, Adam Sampson escribió: | Marcos Guglielmetti <marcospcmusica(a)gmail.com> writes: | > A 75mb Steinway Piano Soundfont made with Swami for the Freepats | > project | | Very nice! (Although I also found the panning a bit confusing, since | it's got left and right reversed from the pianist's perspective...) | | Here's a song using it: | http://offog.org/music/sunburnt-v1.ogg :-D It's really nice to hear that song. It'smakes more sense to build free soundfonts :) The pan issue it is really easy to solve, I (or you) have to change all the R samples and L samples to the other side using Swami or some other editor. I will do it some day, I hope to do it soon, also, I have to make a lot of modifications, for instance, to lower the volume of the FF layer (specially for middle and high notes), this was the first aproach. Personally, I am making this soundfont to play it live, so it must sound like a real piano as far as I can do it. Regards, -- `&' # Marcos Guglielmetti, co-director de # Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre para artistas _#_ http://www.musix.org.ar (#) / O \ + archivos: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix ( === ) Ecología: http://autosus.wordpress.com `---' Personal: http://marcospcmusica.wordpress.com You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw

Marcos Guglielmetti &lt;marcospcmusica(a)gmail.com&gt; writes: Thank you. :) And likewise to the others who've commented -- glad you liked it. It's a Studiologic SL 990 Pro, which is a piano-sized weighted keyboard. It was cheap and feels nice to play, but it has the downside that its key action is very loud -- you can hear it thumping away on the main vocal track on the recording. Behringer B-1 and UB1002FX. (But the mixer's only being used as a mic preamp in this case; all the real mixing's done in Ardour.) There's a little bit of reverb and compression on the original, but it was a pretty quick recording so I didn't spend much time mixing it... Here's a "morning after version" with some more tweaking -- added gates and reverb for the vocal tracks as you suggested: http://offog.org/music/sunburnt-v2.ogg I think if anything it's a bit *too* sensitive at the moment -- I had to turn the velocity sensitivity down on my keyboard to avoid triggering the ff layer all the time. The mf layer sounds fine to me. I'm all in favour of having more ability to play quietly, though. ;) Canterbury in the UK. Heh -- oddly enough since I wrote the song a couple of weeks ago, it's been raining pretty much continuously here... Thanks very much, -- Adam Sampson &lt;ats(a)offog.org&gt; <http://offog.org/>