30 Aug
2011
30 Aug
'11
12:11 a.m.
Hi.
Have anyone of you ever used Timidity Win32GUI, that is the .exe gui for windows? If not
you may download it from http://timidity.s11.xrea.com/index.en.html and run it under wine,
that it works right.
What I have in mind here is that I didn't find all the options that windows gui has in
timidity gui's for linux nor in command line.
For example, in win32gui there's a menu "config" and an option
"preference". There you may check boxes that will allow timidity to recognize or
not reverb, attack, chorus and many other specifications in the midi file. I know that if
we launch timidity from command line on linux we may specify these paramenters for all
files, but I what I need is a way to make timidity on linux recognize how these parameters
are set and/or changed in a midi file while playing it.
The reason is that I use timidity as output for rosegarden. While typing in rosegarden I
insert in the file changes for attack, reverb, brightness and so on. But playing it in
rosegarden with timidity as output or exporting it as midi and playing in timidity through
linux gui's brings no effect change. However if I take the midi file and play it on
windows gui all effects are recognized!
I have noted that win32gui generates a .ini file where these configurations are stored but
in linux I didn't find anything similar.
Can anyone help me, please, to make timidity on çlinux recognize effects changes?
Thank you.
Fernando Martin
30 Aug
30 Aug
6:58 a.m.
Le 30/08/2011 00:11, Fernando Araujo Martiniano a écrit :
Hi.
Have anyone of you ever used Timidity Win32GUI, that is the .exe gui
for windows? If not you may download it from
http://timidity.s11.xrea.com/index.en.html and run it under wine, that
it works right.
What I have in mind here is that I didn't find all the options that
windows gui has in timidity gui's for linux nor in command line.
For example, in win32gui there's a menu "config" and an option
"preference". There you may check boxes that will allow timidity to
recognize or not reverb, attack, chorus and many other specifications
in the midi file. I know that if we launch timidity from command line
on linux we may specify these paramenters for all files, but I what I
need is a way to make timidity on linux recognize how these parameters
are set and/or changed in a midi file while playing it.
The reason is that I use timidity as output for rosegarden. While
typing in rosegarden I insert in the file changes for attack, reverb,
brightness and so on. But playing it in rosegarden with timidity as
output or exporting it as midi and playing in timidity through linux
gui's brings no effect change. However if I take the midi file and
play it on windows gui all effects are recognized!
I have noted that win32gui generates a .ini file where these
configurations are stored but in linux I didn't find anything similar.
Can anyone help me, please, to make timidity on çlinux recognize
effects changes?
Thank you.
Fernando Martin
Hi,
this may help you :
http://wiki.debian.org/Timidity
good luck !
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8:43 p.m.
2011/8/30 Fernando Araujo Martiniano <fernando_araujomartiniano(a)yahoo.com.br>br>:
Hi
Has anyone of you ever used Timidity Win32GUI,
No ;)
... midi and playing in timidity through linux
gui's brings no effect change.
You could try with the options -iA OR -ir
example:
timidity -iA -Os -j -B 4,8
You can dig out additional options with
timidity --help
and
man timidity
(press q to quit)
If that doesn't help you, try fluidsynth and qsynth.
Greets
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E.R.
9:36 p.m.
New subject: Enc: Please help me with Timidity
Thanks.
I already tried timidity -ia and -ig options. And currently to use it as Rosegarden output
I use timidity -iA -Oj.In timidity manual there is a -E option to enable some controllers
to be
recognized. But what I really want to know is when I launch timidity -iA -Oj what else
should I type so that timidity recognizes changes in
attack, brightness, delay, decay, reverb, chorus and so on.
Fernando Martin
10:38 p.m.
New subject: Enc: Please help me with Timidity
2011/8/30 Fernando Araujo Martiniano <fernando_araujomartiniano(a)yahoo.com.br>br>:
... But what I really want to know is when I launch
timidity -iA -Oj
what else should I type so that timidity recognizes changes in attack,
brightness, delay, decay, reverb, chorus and so on.
Maybe an option as -E F reverb=n,1
has any effect on it ?
But first make sure, Rosegarden is actually sending out those events
(use a tool as Kmidimon or Gmidimon , midi monitor )
I would expect timidity to recognize some of the default midi CC
messages as listed here - but I haven't tried myself :
http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midimessages.php#3
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E.R.
31 Aug
31 Aug
6:43 a.m.
New subject: Enc: Please help me with Timidity
Le 30/08/2011 21:36, Fernando Araujo Martiniano a écrit :
Thanks.
I already tried timidity -ia and -ig options. And currently to use it
as Rosegarden output I use timidity -iA -Oj.
In timidity manual there is a -E option to enable some controllers to
be recognized. But what I really want to know is when I launch
timidity -iA -Oj what else should I type so that timidity recognizes
changes in attack, brightness, delay, decay, reverb, chorus and so on.
Fernando Martin
So, if you change the initial question and plan to use no GUI,
everything you need is here :
man timidity
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11:32 p.m.
Ok. I have search through timidity manual using man -t timidity. The -E option seem to be
what I need. It can enable/disable several features as portamento, vibrato, delay, reverb,
chorus. But what really seems to be missing is a way to enable/disable attack, brightness,
decay and release. These features are important for the quality of playback. Timidity
windows gui handles them very nicely. But I found nothing about it on timidity manual.
AS for Rosegarden I tried to use qsynth as output and these controllers take effect on it,
what proofs that rosegarden send these events out. But the response of qsynth to them is
very limited. The timidity responds much better.
There's a workaround. I may place these controller on the file generated by
rosegarden, export as midi and play in timidity windows gui. That's what I use to od.
The only issue is that while composing inside rosegarden I can't hear the real
result.
Fernando Martin
3 Sep
3 Sep
6:19 a.m.
On 03/09/11 05:32, Fernando Araujo Martiniano wrote:
Ok. I have search through timidity manual using man -t
timidity.
But what really seems to be missing is a way to
enable/disable
attack, brightness, decay and release. These features are
searching the timidity man page for ...
"decay" gets me:
-m msec, --decay-time=msec
Modify envelope volume decay time. msec is the minimum number
of milliseconds to sustain a sustained note.
-m0 Disable sustain ramping, causes constant volume sustains
(default).
-m1 Effectively behaves as if all sustains are ignored, vol‐
ume ramping is the same as normal stage 3.
-m3000 A note at full volume will decay for 3 seconds once it
begins to be sustained (assuming the regular stage 3 rate
would not cause it to decay even longer). Softer notes
will of course die sooner.
"release":
-R msec
Enables Pseudo Reverb Mode. It sets every instrument's release
to msec ms. If msec is 0, msec is set to 800 (default).
and;
-f, --[no-]fast-decay
Toggles fast envelopes. This option makes TiMidity++ faster but
the release time of the notes are shortened.
"effects":
F args For effects. See below. In args option, you can specify
following effect options:
delay=(d|l|r|b)[,msec], --delay=(d|l|r|b)[,msec]
Sets delay type.
d, 0 Disabled delay effect.
l, 1 Left delay.
r, 2 Right delay.
b, 3 Swap left & right.
Optional msec is the delay time.
chorus=(d|n|s)[,level], --chorus=(d|n|s)[,level]
d, 0 Disable this effect.
n, 1 Enable MIDI chorus effect control.
s, 2 Surround sound, chorus detuned to a lesser
degree (default).
The optional parameter level specifies the chorus
level 0 to 127.
reverb=(d|n|g|f|G)[,level], --reverb=(d|n|g|f|G)[,level]
d, 0 Disable MIDI reverb effect control.
n, 1 Enable MIDI reverb effect control. This
effect is only available in stereo.
g, 2 Global reverb effect.
f, 3 Freeverb MIDI reverb effect control
(default).
G, 4 Global freeverb effect.
The optional parameter level specifies the reverb
level 0 to 127.
vlpf=(d|c|m), --voice-lpf=(d|c|m)
d, 0 Disable LPF effect.
c, 1 Chamberlin resonant LPF (12dB/oct)
(default).
m, 2 Moog resonant low-pass VCF (24dB/oct)
ns=n, --noise-shaping=n
Enable the n th degree noiseshaping filter. The
distortion at decay stage is improved, but the
noise on human auditory feeling increases because
it shifts to a high frequency. In case of 8-bit
linear encoding, valid values of n are in the
interval from 0 (min) to 4 (max). Default value
is 4. In case of 16-bit linear encoding, valid
values of n are in the interval from 0 to 4.
According to the value, it works as following.
Default value is 4.
0 No noise shaping.
1 Traditional noise shaping.
2 Overdrive-like soft-clipping + new noise
shaping.
3 Tube-amplifier-like soft-clipping + new
noise shaping.
4 New noise shaping.
"envelope":
e/E, --[no-]mod-envelope
Enable/disable modulation envelope controlling.
it is quite a big page, so there is probably more there.
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