10 Mar
2006
10 Mar
'06
1:11 a.m.
Sean's email reminded me to ask if anyone knows of any Linux utilities
to use with a Line6 POD or POD 2.0 for manipulating, saving, and
loading settings?
The pre-XT PODs don't have USB ports and the software available from
Line6 is Java-based, but only for Mac and Windows.
I have never reverse-engineered a file format before, and I wouldn't
even know where to start, but there are lots of files available to
download for the Line6 gear, and it would be nice to be able to use
them. I'm not willing to install Windows to deal with it.
Even if there was an app to just modify and load and save presets for
just Linux users, it wouldn't have to inter-operate with existing
files to be useful. You only have so many hardware preset slots to
use, and remembering the settings is impossible.
So, does anyone know if such a beast exists, or if anyone is working on one?
Dana
On 3/9/06, Sean Edwards <cybersean3000(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Has anybody successfully compiled Free V-Amp?
http://www.nongnu.org/freevamp/
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10 Mar
1:29 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
Are you sure it is for only Mac and Windows? What is
the required Java version? If the minimum Java
version required is older than 1.4.2, it could be the
limitation is related a Java MIDI provider. If this
is the case, then Java 1.4.2 or newer may work;
javax.media.sound.midi was finally fixed in 1.4.2.
--- Dana Olson <dana(a)ubuntustudio.com> wrote:
Sean's email reminded me to ask if anyone knows
of
any Linux utilities
to use with a Line6 POD or POD 2.0 for manipulating,
saving, and
loading settings?
The pre-XT PODs don't have USB ports and the
software available from
Line6 is Java-based, but only for Mac and Windows.
I have never reverse-engineered a file format
before, and I wouldn't
even know where to start, but there are lots of
files available to
download for the Line6 gear, and it would be nice to
be able to use
them. I'm not willing to install Windows to deal
with it.
Even if there was an app to just modify and load and
save presets for
just Linux users, it wouldn't have to inter-operate
with existing
files to be useful. You only have so many hardware
preset slots to
use, and remembering the settings is impossible.
So, does anyone know if such a beast exists, or if
anyone is working on one?
Dana
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wrote:
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2:21 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
On 3/10/06, Sean Edwards <cybersean3000(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Dana Olson <dana(a)ubuntustudio.com> wrote:
I just downloaded and extracted (with Wine, which I didn't realize I
had installed.. but anyhow).
dana@polly:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Line6/Line 6 Edit$ java -jar
Line\ 6\ Edit.jar
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError:
libL6MIDIJava: libL6MIDIJava.so: cannot open shared object file: No
such file or directory
at java.lang.Runtime._load (libgcj.so.7)
at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary (libgcj.so.7)
at java.lang.System.loadLibrary (libgcj.so.7)
at com.line6.l6midijava.L6MIDIJava.<clinit> (L6MIDIJava.java:75)
at java.lang.Class.initializeClass (libgcj.so.7)
at Line6Edit.Launch (Line6Edit.java:1899)
at Line6Edit.main (Line6Edit.java:1894)
So I installed Sun's Java, and this is what I get:
dana@polly:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Line6/Line 6 Edit$ java -jar
Line\ 6\ Edit.jar
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no
L6MIDIJava in java.library.path
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary0(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(Unknown Source)
at com.line6.l6midijava.L6MIDIJava.<clinit>(L6MIDIJava.java:74)
at Line6Edit.Launch(Line6Edit.java:1905)
at Line6Edit.main(Line6Edit.java:1893)
So, looks to me like they're using their own DLL (shipped with the
Windows installer) and whatever Mac uses.
Back a ways, the main Hydrogen developer was going to work on trying
to hack something together, but I pinged him recently about it and he
hasn't had time, and likely won't.
It's too bad, because this device is really great, and I know a few
Linux users would benefit from an app like this for the POD. I might
try hacking something together, but I have a lot to learn, starting
with C/C++. :P
Dana
Sean's email reminded me to ask if anyone
knows of
any Linux utilities
to use with a Line6 POD or POD 2.0 for manipulating,
saving, and
loading settings?
The pre-XT PODs don't have USB ports and the
software available from
Line6 is Java-based, but only for Mac and Windows.
I have never reverse-engineered a file format
before, and I wouldn't
even know where to start, but there are lots of
files available to
download for the Line6 gear, and it would be nice to
be able to use
them. I'm not willing to install Windows to deal
with it.
Even if there was an app to just modify and load and
save presets for
just Linux users, it wouldn't have to inter-operate
with existing
files to be useful. You only have so many hardware
preset slots to
use, and remembering the settings is impossible.
So, does anyone know if such a beast exists, or if
anyone is working on one?
Dana
Are you sure it is for only Mac and Windows? What is
the required Java version? If the minimum Java
version required is older than 1.4.2, it could be the
limitation is related a Java MIDI provider. If this
is the case, then Java 1.4.2 or newer may work;
javax.media.sound.midi was finally fixed in 1.4.2.
2:47 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 00:11 -0500, Dana Olson wrote:
Sean's email reminded me to ask if anyone knows of
any Linux utilities
to use with a Line6 POD or POD 2.0 for manipulating, saving, and
loading settings?
Have you seen this?
http://www.tanzband-scream.at/line6
Lee
2:56 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
On 3/10/06, Lee Revell <rlrevell(a)joe-job.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 00:11 -0500, Dana Olson wrote:
Yes, but unfortunately I don't have a POD xt. The POD 2.0 doesn't have
USB either.
I just requested Linux support from Line6 here:
http://line6.com/company/contact/productFeedback/?topicSelected=3
Dana
Sean's email reminded me to ask if anyone
knows of any Linux utilities
to use with a Line6 POD or POD 2.0 for manipulating, saving, and
loading settings?
Have you seen this?
http://www.tanzband-scream.at/line6
Lee
3:25 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
On 3/10/06, Dana Olson <dana(a)ubuntustudio.com> wrote:
On 3/10/06, Lee Revell <rlrevell(a)joe-job.com>
wrote:
A small glimmer of hope!
http://www.squash-ligue.gf/podgui/podgui.php
I'll let you know if it works..
Dana
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 00:11 -0500, Dana Olson
wrote:
Yes, but unfortunately I don't have a POD xt. The POD 2.0 doesn't have
USB either.
I just requested Linux support from Line6 here:
http://line6.com/company/contact/productFeedback/?topicSelected=3
Dana
Sean's email reminded me to ask if anyone
knows of any Linux utilities
to use with a Line6 POD or POD 2.0 for manipulating, saving, and
loading settings?
Have you seen this?
http://www.tanzband-scream.at/line6
Lee 
4:52 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
So, does anyone know if such a beast exists, or if
anyone is working on one?
I'm working on a QT version of such a program. I haven't released
anything yet, as not all features I'd like it to have are working yet.
From a first look at podgui I assume it is similar to my attempt.
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----> http://cubic.org/~doj
-----> http://llg.cubic.org
5:12 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
On 3/10/06, Dirk Jagdmann <doj(a)cubic.org> wrote:
How could it not be similar? :)
This is just a few Wish Tcl scripts, but they actually do work.
Well, sorta.
It can read some settings in realtime from the POD, and some only
after you manually click Read POD. It can change the mode to Tuner or
Manual, change patch Names, and it can Save settings on the POD. It
detects when you modify anything on the POD.
But what it doesn't appear to do is allow me to tweak the settings and
have it change it on the POD. It's supposed to work, but it doesn't. I
emailed the author already.
This is a very good attempt, and if it can be perfect for what I need,
if it could change the settings on the POD (some features aren't
controllable on the POD unit itself, as I'm sure you know).
There is a bit of a workaround, it appears... Set up the settings how
you want on the POD, then Save... the settings to a sysex file. Then
Open... the file up again, and your POD will light up EDITED. Save
POD, and it's set. But it doesn't work for the software-only features,
such as reverb type.
---
Anyhow, how close is your app to being done? The author of this app
hasn't done anything since May last year, so I'm not sure he'll be
responsive to me... I might look at the code and see what I can figure
out... But if you're close, I would be willing to test it and give you
feedback too. I would like to start coding on something, and I haven't
yet decided what.
I've been wanting an app like this for a while, and last I searched I
found nothing, but tonight my luck seems to have changed for the
better.
You can email me off-list if you like.
Dana
So, does
anyone know if such a beast exists, or if anyone is working on one?
I'm working on a QT version of such a program. I haven't released
anything yet, as not all features I'd like it to have are working yet.
From a first look at podgui I assume it is similar to my attempt.
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----> http://cubic.org/~doj
-----> http://llg.cubic.org
6:24 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
Anyhow, how close is your app to being done? The
author of this app
hasn't done anything since May last year, so I'm not sure he'll be
responsive to me... I might look at the code and see what I can figure
out... But if you're close, I would be willing to test it and give you
feedback too. I would like to start coding on something, and I haven't
yet decided what.
I've just hacked together an alpha website for this alpha software:
http://llg.cubic.org/qtpod/
Get the source and have a look at it. Not everything is working yet, the
TODO tells what's most urgent to fix.
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----> http://cubic.org/~doj
-----> http://llg.cubic.org
10:21 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
JSynthLib also supports the Line 6 :
http://www.jsynthlib.org/
1:52 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
JSynthLib also supports the Line 6 :
http://www.jsynthlib.org/
and via Tritonus JSynthLib also supports ALSA :) .
Best regards
ce
2:40 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
Christoph Eckert wrote:
Hi Christoph:
That's nice to know. How do I set it up ?
Best,
dp
JSynthLib also
supports the Line 6 :
http://www.jsynthlib.org/
and via Tritonus JSynthLib also supports ALSA :) .
3:16 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
That's nice to know. How do I set it up ?
See http://www.tritonus.org; after unpacking (I got the binaries) see
the readme for installation details. It was just copying some files
into some lib folders.
Best regards
ce
2:54 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 11:25 +0100, Dirk Jagdmann wrote:
Why exactly do we need two apps to do the same thing?
Please, don't start a new project just because the existing one is
missign some features you want, why not simply contribute to the
original project?
Lee
Anyhow, how
close is your app to being done? The author of this app
hasn't done anything since May last year, so I'm not sure he'll be
responsive to me... I might look at the code and see what I can figure
out... But if you're close, I would be willing to test it and give you
feedback too. I would like to start coding on something, and I haven't
yet decided what.
I've just hacked together an alpha website for this alpha software:
http://llg.cubic.org/qtpod/
Get the source and have a look at it. Not everything is working yet, the
TODO tells what's most urgent to fix.
11 Mar
11 Mar
7:18 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
Why exactly do we need two apps to do the same thing?
Please, don't start a new project just because the existing one is
missign some features you want, why not simply contribute to the
original project?
I'm no TCL coder and don't want to be one...
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----> http://cubic.org/~doj
-----> http://llg.cubic.org
7:35 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
On 3/11/06, Dirk Jagdmann <doj(a)cubic.org> wrote:
Please announce to this list (or at least to me personally) when your
app reaches maturity. Your TODO list is sorta long, heh. I'm no Qt
coder, and don't want to be one, or I'd try and help.
I may have a look at that TCL script and see if I can figure out why
it isn't working 100% for me.
But JSynthLib looks very nice too. I wil ltry it shortly.
Dana
Why exactly do
we need two apps to do the same thing?
Please, don't start a new project just because the existing one is
missign some features you want, why not simply contribute to the
original project?
I'm no TCL coder and don't want to be one...
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----> http://cubic.org/~doj
-----> http://llg.cubic.org
7:25 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
Why exactly do we need two apps to do the same thing?
the old question I was wondering about more than one times. Why Kat as
there is Beagle? Why KDE as there is Gnome? Why ALSA as there's OSS?
Why Gentoo as there's Debian? Why Linux as there's Wintoys ;-) ?
Please, don't start a new project just because the
existing one is
missign some features you want, why not simply contribute to the
original project?
* You think you can do it better; it's called evolution :)
* You dislike the used toolkit/technology/etc.
* You dislike the GUI
* You do it just for your personal satisfaction and give it away as free
software because you don't want to make a business from it
* ...
Best regards
ce
1:59 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
On Sat, 2006-03-11 at 12:25 +0100, Christoph Eckert wrote:
These are all due to license issues, or to fundamentally incompatible
design goals (At Debian stablity is paramount, with Gentoo it's more
important to be on the bleeding edge).
To paraphrase ESR, creative minds are a valuable and limited resource,
it's a sin to waste them reinventing the wheel.
Lee
Why exactly do
we need two apps to do the same thing?
the old question I was wondering about more than one times. Why Kat as
there is Beagle? Why KDE as there is Gnome? Why ALSA as there's OSS?
Why Gentoo as there's Debian? Why Linux as there's Wintoys ;-) ?
2:52 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
To paraphrase ESR, creative minds are a valuable and
limited
resource, it's a sin to waste them reinventing the wheel.
I feel the same, but life is different. If ESR was the boss of a company
who owns all free software, he could decide to conduct several projects
into one. Fortunately free software doesn't belong to a company, so we
have to live with the waste of worthy time.
Best regards
ce
10 Mar
10 Mar
1:49 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
But what it doesn't appear to do is allow me to
tweak the settings
and have it change it on the POD. It's supposed to work, but it
doesn't
Did you edit it using sysex? If so, I guess it uses a checksum.
I have a Behringer V-Amp 2, just similar to the Pod, and I have reverse
engineered almost the complete sysex stuff. Unfortunately I only have
some poor Qt skills :( .
Best regards
ce
6:43 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
Christoph Eckert wrote:
I only have very limited programming skills, but I have a V-Amp Pro, and
would be very interested in writing this sort of utility.
Would the SYSEX stuff for the V-Amp 2 be similar to the V-Amp Pro, I
wonder? If so, I would be very interested in learning what you have
found out!
Regards
Michael
But what it
doesn't appear to do is allow me to tweak the settings
and have it change it on the POD. It's supposed to work, but it
doesn't
Did you edit it using sysex? If so, I guess it uses a checksum.
I have a Behringer V-Amp 2, just similar to the Pod, and I have reverse
engineered almost the complete sysex stuff. Unfortunately I only have
some poor Qt skills :( .
11 Mar
11 Mar
3:52 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
I only have very limited programming skills, but I
have a V-Amp Pro,
and would be very interested in writing this sort of utility.
Would the SYSEX stuff for the V-Amp 2 be similar to the V-Amp Pro, I
wonder?
no clue, but I guess it is. Can the Pro load sysex files of the 2?
If so, I would be very interested in learning what you
have
found out!
First, Behringer put more sysex doc into the manuals, thanks to them not
making it a secrect.
Second, the complete device memory (=125 patches) are dumped as one huge
chunk.
Third, one patch is about 58 bytes and I know of almost every byte what
it does :) .
I also have designed a GUI to program the V-Amp in Qt designer, but I
have to search my archives for it if it is of interest.
Best regards
ce
5 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
Christoph Eckert <ce(a)christeck.de> writes:
[Behringer V-Amp Pro and V-Amp 2]
Third, one patch is about 58 bytes and I know of
almost every byte what
it does :) .
I would be interested in that knowledge.
I also have designed a GUI to program the V-Amp in Qt
designer, but I
have to search my archives for it if it is of interest.
It is ;-)
BTW: JSynthLib seems to support the V-Amp 2
Robert Epprecht
5:51 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
Third, one
patch is about 58 bytes and I know of almost every byte
what it does :) .
I would be interested in that knowledge. I also have
designed a GUI to program the V-Amp in Qt designer, but
I have to search my archives for it if it is of interest.
It is ;-) BTW: JSynthLib seems to support the V-Amp 2
I didn't get CVS compiling due to some heavy breaks in the CVS. but
true, there's a driver in the CVS to support the V-Amp2.
Furthermore I'd be glad if (with the help of someone else) I did manage
to create a "stub" application using Qt4 and RtMidi as a base for
various SysEx tools I'd like to write.
Best regards
ce
7:07 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
Michael T D Nelson schrieb:
Would the SYSEX stuff for the V-Amp 2 be similar to the V-Amp Pro, I
wonder?
There is some useful information at the V-Amp Yahoo group. Yes, I know,
one should avoid these in general, but in this case, one should make an
exception.
Klaus
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10 Mar
10 Mar
1:46 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Line6 POD util? WAS: Anybody compiled Free V-Amp?
Hi,
I have never reverse-engineered a file format before,
and I wouldn't
even know where to start, but there are lots of files available to
download for the Line6 gear, and it would be nice to be able to use
them. I'm not willing to install Windows to deal with it.
the pods understand sysex, so if you get presets as sysex files from the
web you can send them to the pod, I guess.
Best regards
ce
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