17 Feb
2020
17 Feb
'20
12:50 p.m.
Hi.
Previously, I uses SoX (and a bit of scripting) to mix a set of several
tracks into a single mix. This involved quite a bit of manual work, as I had
to figure out the tempi and start/end points by listeing.
I am wondering, is there perhaps a better tool which could be used
to get faster results? In particular, I'd love to be able
to save metdata for tracks, like *exact* BPM and time indices
of certain interesting bars per track such that I could reuse them.
Any tools I haven't noticed that could be used to do this on the
command-line?
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17 Feb
17 Feb
1:11 p.m.
Hey hey Mario,
Feb 17 2020, Mario Lang has written:
...
I am wondering, is there perhaps a better tool which
could be used
to get faster results? In particular, I'd love to be able
to save metdata for tracks, like *exact* BPM and time indices
of certain interesting bars per track such that I could reuse them.
...
I dont know an application that can both recognise the tempo and add
that information. But... NNama - based on Ecasound - can approach your
featureset.
You have track comments, which you could use to note the exact tempo.
For finding the tempo you can use bpm-tools - that's the Archlinux
package name - or aubio. I think the latter egven has an onset detection
tool.
As for marks: Nama can't set marks on a per track basis, but you can set
global marks in the project.
All this metadata is only available in the Nama project, so not encoded
into the actual audiofiles. Maybe one of the aubio or bpm-tools apps can
actually save some metadata into audiofiles beside mp3. bpm-tag
certainly does store the detected tempo inside an mp3 file.
I seem to recall a tool to read/write metadata specifically for simle
uncompressed formats like wave and aiff, but can't find anything helpful
on my system.
Does this help?
Best wishes,
Jeanette
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1:30 p.m.
Hi Marios
> I am wondering, is there perhaps a better tool
which could be used
> to get faster results? In particular, I'd love to be able
> to save metdata for tracks, like *exact* BPM and time indices
> of certain interesting bars per track such that I could reuse them.
If you don't know them yet:
http://www.pogo.org.uk/~mark/bpm-tools/
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3:17 p.m.
"Jeanette C." <julien(a)mail.upb.de> writes:
Hey hey Mario,
Feb 17 2020, Mario Lang has written:
...
Thanks. I am not sure if this is what I am looking for.
Recognizing BPM alone isn't really enough, as I also need a position
where the first beat starts. bpm-tools can not do this, so it doesnt
seem very useful.
Also, I'd need to translate the BPM to relative speeds when changing
playback speed of two tracks, so I'd still need to do manual calculations.
I am really looking for a DJing tool that would work for command-line
users.
It doesnt have to have any real-time capabilities, but it should make
mixing tracks as simple as possible, and allow to save the metadata required to
play/render a full set.
What I currently do is generate a shell script which calls out to SoX
from a Python program. That works for just a few tracks, but gets
very time consuming when the set gets longer, as SoX always needs to
render the whole set from the beginning. So once my set ends up being
30 minutes long, I have to wait a considerable time to be able to listen
to the end because it has to be rendered from the beginning each time.
It would be nice to have some sort of player, which could be used
to seek in the final mix, and be able to adjust things and get instant
playback feedback.
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CYa,
⡍⠁⠗⠊⠕
I am wondering, is there perhaps a better tool
which could be used
to get faster results? In particular, I'd love to be able
to save metdata for tracks, like *exact* BPM and time indices
of certain interesting bars per track such that I could reuse them.
...
I dont know an application that can both recognise the tempo and add
that information. But... NNama - based on Ecasound - can approach your
featureset.
You have track comments, which you could use to note the exact tempo.
For finding the tempo you can use bpm-tools - that's the Archlinux
package name - or aubio. I think the latter egven has an onset detection
tool.
As for marks: Nama can't set marks on a per track basis, but you can set
global marks in the project.
All this metadata is only available in the Nama project, so not encoded
into the actual audiofiles. Maybe one of the aubio or bpm-tools apps can
actually save some metadata into audiofiles beside mp3. bpm-tag
certainly does store the detected tempo inside an mp3 file.
I seem to recall a tool to read/write metadata specifically for simle
uncompressed formats like wave and aiff, but can't find anything helpful
on my system.
Does this help?
5:32 p.m.
Hi Mario,
first: I don't know of a tool that would do all of it. I have searched for
something like it myself.
But, aubio-onset might help you in scripting.
Following the scripting idea: ecasound might be an interesting choice to
render the mix, since you can listen live. You don't have to render to disk
first. With its interactive mode you can jump around, or use an option to
start playing from a certain point in time. Still very meagre compared to the
application you need.
Another possibility worth invest5igating could be csound. The language
requires some learning, but there are many useful modules. It is a bit like a
eurorack as a programming language.
Sorry, if I can't suggest anything closer to the mark.
Best wishes,
Jeanette
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