26 Jun
2012
26 Jun
'12
10:51 p.m.
Hello, all,
Following my request, Dave Phillips was kind enough to send me session
stem tracks for his "On Board The Blues" song so that I could try my
handd at turning out yet another mix in this series. You can find the
result here:
http://www.wolfdream.ca/x/audio/dpblues/Phillips_-_OnboardTheBlues_SMmix.ogg
or: http://www.wolfdream.ca/x/audio/dpblues/Phillips_-_OnboardTheBlues_SMmix.mp3
As it's the first mix I'm able to share with this list, I would
definitely welcome any feedback you care to give: there are some very
good brains and sets of ears here.
Cheers,
S.M.
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26 Jun
26 Jun
11:10 p.m.
Hi Massy!
Nice work. That sounds like Nama is getting an outing. :-)
So youalso decided for the rather dry and small version, what I call
singer/songwriter sound. did you add any reverb at all? If so, it was done
very subtlely. For my liking it's a little to narrow in the stereo panorama.
did you apply EQ'ing and/or filtering to the instruments?
It's certainly a mix to listen to. But it still feels a little bass heavy
(maybe around the good old 150Hz point, but not sure). It's definitely a
working mix, in contrast to a working-mix, if you catch my meaning. Still I
feel, that you might have used reverb a little more liberally overall.
compression seems allright. In the beginning I had the feeling, that it
sounded overcompressed, but that quickly disappated. If the sounds had a
little more room to breathe, I feel, that it would also be transparent enough.
So basically frequencies seem OK.
But now, that all five mixes are supposedly in, I'd still vote for Jason's
mix a smy favourite. Due to the drums of course, but also due to the general
atmosphere, the room, the EQ'ing. Perhaps not totally faithful, to what there
was originally, but very pleasant to the ear of the beholder, in that case
being me. :-) No slamming of any other mix, there wasn't any mix among them,
which I would happily take and listen to again. They were all in their own
ways faithful to the piece.
Warmly yours
Julien
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11:17 p.m.
On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 23:10 +0200, Julien Claassen wrote:
So who all has contributed mixes up to this point? Not sure I have
heard all of them.
Ricardus...
Hi Massy!
Nice work. That sounds like Nama is getting an outing. :-)
So youalso decided for the rather dry and small version, what I call
singer/songwriter sound. did you add any reverb at all? If so, it was done
very subtlely. For my liking it's a little to narrow in the stereo panorama.
did you apply EQ'ing and/or filtering to the instruments?
It's certainly a mix to listen to. But it still feels a little bass heavy
(maybe around the good old 150Hz point, but not sure). It's definitely a
working mix, in contrast to a working-mix, if you catch my meaning. Still I
feel, that you might have used reverb a little more liberally overall.
compression seems allright. In the beginning I had the feeling, that it
sounded overcompressed, but that quickly disappated. If the sounds had a
little more room to breathe, I feel, that it would also be transparent enough.
So basically frequencies seem OK.
But now, that all five mixes are supposedly in, I'd still vote for Jason's
mix a smy favourite. Due to the drums of course, but also due to the general
atmosphere, the room, the EQ'ing. Perhaps not totally faithful, to what there
was originally, but very pleasant to the ear of the beholder, in that case
being me. :-) No slamming of any other mix, there wasn't any mix among them,
which I would happily take and listen to again. They were all in their own
ways faithful to the piece.
Warmly yours
Julien
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Such Is Life: Very Intensely Adorable;
Free And Jubilating Amazement Revels, Dancing On - FLOWERS!
====== Find my music at ======
http://juliencoder.de/nama/music.html
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so I never have to live without you." (Winnie the Pooh)
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11:24 p.m.
Hi Ricardus!
Mixes have been submitted in Dave's original mail by:
Dave, Fons Adriaensen, Jason Jones and McGruff. Then you sent yours and now
Massy's.
Warmly yours
Julien
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so I never have to live without you." (Winnie the Pooh)
11:25 p.m.
Hey, Julien, thanks for the response.
Yes, there is reverb on everything: jconvolver for the instruments, and
a plate on the vocals, but very conservatively applied, as you noted. I
was going for an accoustic or small venue feel, which I felt was best
suited for this song; but that's an aesthetic, which means subjective,
decision.
The stereo field is indeed narrow: I tried widening it, but didn't like
the result, so I stuck to something more crowded.
There is EQ on most things, guitar especially. I agree about the
low-mid hump, wwhich is the only thing I would have further refined when
listening to the mix again today after a couple days rest. Low-mids were
one of the challenges in this mix: I removed a fair bit, but perhaps
could have removed a touch more. On the other hand, I feel the low-mid
punch gives a bit of a balsy feel which is not entirely unpleasant, but
does not necessarily translate well in every speaker/headphone.
Thanks again.
Cheers,
S.M.
11:33 p.m.
Hi Massy!
Hm, maybe you might have gone with some different compression on the bass
and thus tried to keep the low-midhump more behaved. I don't know.
The reverb is very modestly applied. A touch more might not have been bad,
same room sizes, IR-reverbs. But that's all personal taste.
For the widening of the parnorama. You might have experimented with some
very short stereo delay on the tracks, thus keeping some glue on a very
reduced level. Delay length between 12-18ms. I've had good experiences with
the etd and 2143. Lately the latter is my favourite, I have more control over
it.
Did you apply some highpass filter to the guitars? You could you know, same
for the vocals. probably take a filter with a shallow slope, seeing, that the
arrangement is that small.
Warmly yours
Julien
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Such Is Life: Very Intensely Adorable;
Free And Jubilating Amazement Revels, Dancing On - FLOWERS!
====== Find my music at ======
http://juliencoder.de/nama/music.html
.....................................
"If you live to be 100, I hope I live to be 100 minus 1 day,
so I never have to live without you." (Winnie the Pooh)
27 Jun
27 Jun
12:21 a.m.
Greetings,
A quick note regarding the other mixes. I'm working on a Web page that
includes links to all the mixes, hopefully the page will include a form
for feedback. I also plan to make the session and stems publicly
available, perhaps users of other DAWs (non-Linux even) will take a
crack at making me sound better. :) And btw, there's another very nice
mix from Matt Francomb that was announced on the Ardour forum. I think
that's six mixes so far. So if you missed the other mixes they'll be
on-line in a single location soon. Meanwhile you can access them all
through this thread on KVR-audio :
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=351849&start=0&postda…
(Sorry if the mailer splits the URL).
Best,
dp
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