25 Apr
2008
25 Apr
'08
9:04 a.m.
Hi,
I've to find out specimen cause many people seems to use it. But I can't
find a clear documentation...
1. What can I do with Specimen?
2. Is it comparable with linuxsamplers gigedit?
3. Will Specimen make a soundfont? Or a other file?
4. What is a bank and how can I get one?
5. What is a patch and how can I get one?
6. How can I convert wav -> to 'specimen file' (there was a script some
time ago on the list?)
7. IS it possible with specimen to make a soundfont, or do I need a
other program for that?
Thanks in advance,
~d
25 Apr
25 Apr
9:48 a.m.
schoappied wrote:
1. What can I do with Specimen?
It's a software sampler, which in today's parlance means it's a
sample
playback system.
2. Is it comparable with linuxsamplers gigedit?
No. Gigedit is an editor for GIG-format files. Specimen is not an editor
for any soundfile format.
3. Will Specimen make a soundfont? Or a other file?
No.
4. What is a bank and how can I get one?
5. What is a patch and how can I get one?
You can create your own patches and banks from within Specimen itself.
It's pretty easy.
6. How can I convert wav -> to 'specimen
file' (there was a script some
time ago on the list?)
Now where did that script get to... Anyone else have it ?
7. IS it possible with specimen to make a soundfont,
or do I need a
other program for that?
You should look at Swami, it's a very good editor for soundfonts.
Best,
dp
11:35 a.m.
Dave Phillips wrote:
Now where did that script get to... Anyone else have
it ?
You might be talking about the attached python script that I wrote and
posted a couple of weeks ago...
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http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk
#!/usr/bin/env python
# -*- coding: latin-1 -*-
import os, optparse, sys, os.path, wave
parser = optparse.OptionParser()
if '-?' in sys.argv:
sys.argv.remove('-?')
sys.argv.append('-h')
parser.add_option('-d','--directory-containing-wavs',
dest="wavDir", default='.')
parser.add_option('-l','--lowest-note-of-mapping',
dest="startNote", default='36')
parser.add_option('-f','--force-overwrite', action="store_true",
dest="forceOverwrite", default=False)
parser.add_option('-s','--stdout', action="store_true",
dest="stdOut", default=False)
parser.add_option('-o','--outfile', dest="outFile")
(options, args) = parser.parse_args()
def getDir(dir):
result = []
import os.path
path = os.path.abspath(dir) + '/'
list = os.listdir(dir)
for file in list:
(root, ext) = os.path.splitext(file)
if os.path.isfile(path + file) and ext in ['.wav','.WAV']:
result.append(path + file)
return result
header = """<?xml version="1.0"?>
<beef>"""
patch = """ <patch>
<name>%s</name>
<file>%s</file>
<channel>0</channel>
<note>%s</note>
<volume>1,000000</volume>
<pan>0,000000</pan>
<play_mode>5</play_mode>
<cut>0</cut>
<cut_by>0</cut_by>
<range>0</range>
<lower_note>%s</lower_note>
<upper_note>%s</upper_note>
<sample_start>0</sample_start>
<sample_stop>%s</sample_stop>
<loop_start>0</loop_start>
<loop_stop>%s</loop_stop>
<cutoff>1,000000</cutoff>
<resonance>0,000000</resonance>
<pitch>0,000000</pitch>
<pitch_steps>2</pitch_steps>
<portamento>no</portamento>
<portamento_time>0,050000</portamento_time>
<monophonic>no</monophonic>
<legato>no</legato>
<volume_a>0,000000</volume_a>
<volume_env_on>no</volume_env_on>
<volume_amt>0,000000</volume_amt>
<volume_d>0,000000</volume_d>
<volume_s>1,000000</volume_s>
<volume_r>0,000000</volume_r>
<volume_delay>0,000000</volume_delay>
<volume_hold>0,000000</volume_hold>
<volume_lfo_amt>0,000000</volume_lfo_amt>
<volume_lfo_on>no</volume_lfo_on>
<volume_vel_amt>1,000000</volume_vel_amt>
<volume_lfo_a>0,000000</volume_lfo_a>
<volume_lfo_delay>0,000000</volume_lfo_delay>
<volume_lfo_beats>1,000000</volume_lfo_beats>
<volume_lfo_freq>1,000000</volume_lfo_freq>
<volume_lfo_global>no</volume_lfo_global>
<volume_lfo_sync>no</volume_lfo_sync>
<volume_lfo_positive>no</volume_lfo_positive>
<volume_lfo_shape>sine</volume_lfo_shape>
<panning_a>0,000000</panning_a>
<panning_env_on>no</panning_env_on>
<panning_amt>0,000000</panning_amt>
<panning_d>0,000000</panning_d>
<panning_s>1,000000</panning_s>
<panning_r>0,000000</panning_r>
<panning_delay>0,000000</panning_delay>
<panning_hold>0,000000</panning_hold>
<panning_lfo_amt>0,000000</panning_lfo_amt>
<panning_lfo_on>no</panning_lfo_on>
<panning_vel_amt>0,000000</panning_vel_amt>
<panning_lfo_a>0,000000</panning_lfo_a>
<panning_lfo_delay>0,000000</panning_lfo_delay>
<panning_lfo_beats>1,000000</panning_lfo_beats>
<panning_lfo_freq>1,000000</panning_lfo_freq>
<panning_lfo_global>no</panning_lfo_global>
<panning_lfo_sync>no</panning_lfo_sync>
<panning_lfo_positive>no</panning_lfo_positive>
<panning_lfo_shape>sine</panning_lfo_shape>
<cutoff_a>0,000000</cutoff_a>
<cutoff_env_on>no</cutoff_env_on>
<cutoff_amt>0,000000</cutoff_amt>
<cutoff_d>0,000000</cutoff_d>
<cutoff_s>1,000000</cutoff_s>
<cutoff_r>0,000000</cutoff_r>
<cutoff_delay>0,000000</cutoff_delay>
<cutoff_hold>0,000000</cutoff_hold>
<cutoff_lfo_amt>0,000000</cutoff_lfo_amt>
<cutoff_lfo_on>no</cutoff_lfo_on>
<cutoff_vel_amt>0,000000</cutoff_vel_amt>
<cutoff_lfo_a>0,000000</cutoff_lfo_a>
<cutoff_lfo_delay>0,000000</cutoff_lfo_delay>
<cutoff_lfo_beats>1,000000</cutoff_lfo_beats>
<cutoff_lfo_freq>1,000000</cutoff_lfo_freq>
<cutoff_lfo_global>no</cutoff_lfo_global>
<cutoff_lfo_sync>no</cutoff_lfo_sync>
<cutoff_lfo_positive>no</cutoff_lfo_positive>
<cutoff_lfo_shape>sine</cutoff_lfo_shape>
<resonance_a>0,000000</resonance_a>
<resonance_env_on>no</resonance_env_on>
<resonance_amt>0,000000</resonance_amt>
<resonance_d>0,000000</resonance_d>
<resonance_s>1,000000</resonance_s>
<resonance_r>0,000000</resonance_r>
<resonance_delay>0,000000</resonance_delay>
<resonance_hold>0,000000</resonance_hold>
<resonance_lfo_amt>0,000000</resonance_lfo_amt>
<resonance_lfo_on>no</resonance_lfo_on>
<resonance_vel_amt>0,000000</resonance_vel_amt>
<resonance_lfo_a>0,000000</resonance_lfo_a>
<resonance_lfo_delay>0,000000</resonance_lfo_delay>
<resonance_lfo_beats>1,000000</resonance_lfo_beats>
<resonance_lfo_freq>1,000000</resonance_lfo_freq>
<resonance_lfo_global>no</resonance_lfo_global>
<resonance_lfo_sync>no</resonance_lfo_sync>
<resonance_lfo_positive>no</resonance_lfo_positive>
<resonance_lfo_shape>sine</resonance_lfo_shape>
<pitch_a>0,000000</pitch_a>
<pitch_env_on>no</pitch_env_on>
<pitch_amt>0,000000</pitch_amt>
<pitch_d>0,000000</pitch_d>
<pitch_s>1,000000</pitch_s>
<pitch_r>0,000000</pitch_r>
<pitch_delay>0,000000</pitch_delay>
<pitch_hold>0,000000</pitch_hold>
<pitch_lfo_amt>0,000000</pitch_lfo_amt>
<pitch_lfo_on>no</pitch_lfo_on>
<pitch_vel_amt>0,000000</pitch_vel_amt>
<pitch_lfo_a>0,000000</pitch_lfo_a>
<pitch_lfo_delay>0,000000</pitch_lfo_delay>
<pitch_lfo_beats>1,000000</pitch_lfo_beats>
<pitch_lfo_freq>1,000000</pitch_lfo_freq>
<pitch_lfo_global>no</pitch_lfo_global>
<pitch_lfo_sync>no</pitch_lfo_sync>
<pitch_lfo_positive>no</pitch_lfo_positive>
<pitch_lfo_shape>sine</pitch_lfo_shape>
</patch>"""
footer = "</beef>"
# --- the action ----
output = []
output.append(header)
note = int(options.startNote)
for file in getDir(options.wavDir):
(head, tail) = os.path.split(file)
(basename, ext) = os.path.splitext(tail)
wav = wave.open(file)
end = wav.getnframes() -1
values = (basename,file,note, note, note, end, end)
output.append(patch % values)
note = note + 1
output.append(footer)
if options.stdOut == True:
print '\n'.join(output)
sys.exit()
if not options.outFile:
options.outFile = options.wavDir.strip('/').split('/')[-1:][0] +
'.beef'
if not os.path.exists(options.outFile) or options.forceOverwrite:
FILE = open(options.outFile,"w")
for line in output:
FILE.write(line)
else:
print 'outfile "' + options.outFile + '" exists, use -f to force
overwrite'
12:01 p.m.
schoappied wrote:
How do I use such a script exactly?
put it in yout path and type the following in a terminal:
dir2beef --help
--
peace, love & harmony
Atte
http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen
http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk
26 Apr
26 Apr
3:38 a.m.
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 04:01:37PM +0200, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Atte_Andr=E9_Jensen_ wrote:
schoappied wrote:
I've used this one for quite a while now, with good results:
http://tapas.affenbande.org/wordpress/?page_id=33
-ken
How do I use such a script exactly?
put it in yout path and type the following in a terminal:
dir2beef --help
28 Apr
28 Apr
7:32 a.m.
The specimen manual on their website is not very clear and outdated, so
I asked the question on this list cause I expected to get more useful
information here, which I did get :) I think I am able to start to work
with specimen now...
Thanks guys for the scripts and your explanation Hartmut ;)
Regards,
Dirk
7:41 a.m.
Forgot to ask:
Which file output give the best sound?
- specimen file
- soundfont
- *.gig file
-
-
Thanks in advance,
dirk
9:02 a.m.
schoappied wrote:
Which file output give the best sound?
Without knowing too much about the technical detail, I'd say they are
the same quality...
--
peace, love & harmony
Atte
http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen
http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk
11:26 a.m.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:41 AM, schoappied <schoappied(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Forgot to ask:
Which file output give the best sound?
- specimen file
- soundfont
- *.gig file
I don't know enough about specimen to take in depth about that.
However typically the gig files I use generally support multiple
samples / note. The samples are chosen during playback based not only
on what key I hit but also on things like MIDI velocity or controller
settings. GigaStudio (but not LS) can do some very sophisticated
things like live mixing of different samples in the same gig file,
inserting processing on the samples, etc., to get some wonderful
results.
I don't use soundfonts much. The older files I purchased only
supported a single sample / note at that time. This meant to modulate
volume with MIDI velocity all you got was the same sample played
louder which is fine over a limited volume range but generally not
that great from 0-127.
Whatever you choose to use, please don't worry too much about the
stuff above. Just let your ears tell you if you're getting what you
want.
Have fun,
Mark
30 Apr
30 Apr
1:52 p.m.
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:41 AM, schoappied
<schoappied(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Where can I find the best free soundfiles? (I know the place at the
linuxsampler forum)...
Forgot to ask:
Which file output give the best sound?
- specimen file
- soundfont
- *.gig file
I don't know enough about specimen to take in depth about that.
However typically the gig files I use generally support multiple
samples / note. The samples are chosen during playback based not only
on what key I hit but also on things like MIDI velocity or controller
settings. GigaStudio (but not LS) can do some very sophisticated
things like live mixing of different samples in the same gig file,
inserting processing on the samples, etc., to get some wonderful
results.
I don't use soundfonts much. The older files I purchased only
supported a single sample / note at that time. This meant to modulate
volume with MIDI velocity all you got was the same sample played
louder which is fine over a limited volume range but generally not
that great from 0-127.
Whatever you choose to use, please don't worry too much about the
stuff above. Just let your ears tell you if you're getting what you
want.
Have fun,
Mark
2:26 p.m.
schoappied wrote:
Where can I find the best free soundfiles? (I know the
place at the
linuxsampler forum)...
http://linux-sound.org/sounds.html
At least it's a starting point.
Free high-quality GIG files are rather hard to come by, though there is
a nice piano GIG available from the LS site.
Hammer Sound is probably a good place to start looking for soundfonts.
Check out Freesounds too. Lots of interesting things there.
Best,
dp
2:41 p.m.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com> wrote:
schoappied wrote:
I meant to share these earlier: http://sullivang.net/samples/ - free
gig files of a Hohner Pianet T, Wurlitzer EP200, and a Yamaha CP80.
learjeff's Rhodes soundfonts are nice too: http://learjeff.net/sf/sf.html
ns7kit_free was a nice soundfont for drums, but I'm not sure where to
find it anymore.
I've collected a few more links at http://del.icio.us/pcoccoli/samples.
Where can I find the best free soundfiles? (I
know the place at the
linuxsampler forum)...
http://linux-sound.org/sounds.html
At least it's a starting point.
Free high-quality GIG files are rather hard to come by, though there is
a nice piano GIG available from the LS site.
Hammer Sound is probably a good place to start looking for soundfonts.
Check out Freesounds too. Lots of interesting things there. 
3:58 p.m.
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:02:21 -0400
Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com> wrote:
Paul Coccoli wrote:
just had a quick look and it seems that the remaining
free stuff from naturalstudios can be found here:
http://www.naturalstudio.co.uk/bb/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=7471399a3bb66e…
cheers,
pete.
ns7kit_free was a nice soundfont for drums, but
I'm not sure where to find it anymore.
IIRC the kit now belongs to another
commercial entity and the free
version is no longer available.
4:03 p.m.
pete shorthose wrote:
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:02:21 -0400
Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com> wrote:
Maybe someone has the files on his hard drive.... from the time it was
free to download it?
Paul Coccoli wrote:
just had a quick look and it seems that the remaining
free stuff from naturalstudios can be found here:
http://www.naturalstudio.co.uk/bb/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=7471399a3bb66e…
cheers,
pete.
ns7kit_free was a nice soundfont for drums, but
I'm not sure where to find it anymore.
IIRC the kit now belongs to another commercial entity and the free
version is no longer available.
3:57 p.m.
Paul Coccoli wrote:
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Dave Phillips
<dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com> wrote:
Thanks!
I found the files at The University of Iowa Electronic Music Studios,
but should I convert *.aiff to wav? And then use the files just as you
do with wav files? How to convert?
(/Alto Sax/AltoSax.Vib.pp.Db3B3.aiff)
Dirk
schoappied wrote:
I meant to share these earlier: http://sullivang.net/samples/ - free
gig files of a Hohner Pianet T, Wurlitzer EP200, and a Yamaha CP80.
learjeff's Rhodes soundfonts are nice too: http://learjeff.net/sf/sf.html
ns7kit_free was a nice soundfont for drums, but I'm not sure where to
find it anymore.
I've collected a few more links at http://del.icio.us/pcoccoli/samples.
_______________________________________________
Where can I find the best free soundfiles? (I
know the place at the
linuxsampler forum)...
http://linux-sound.org/sounds.html
At least it's a starting point.
Free high-quality GIG files are rather hard to come by, though there is
a nice piano GIG available from the LS site.
Hammer Sound is probably a good place to start looking for soundfonts.
Check out Freesounds too. Lots of interesting things there.
6:21 p.m.
schoappied wrote:
Thanks!
I found the files at The University of Iowa Electronic Music Studios,
but should I convert *.aiff to wav? And then use the files just as you
do with wav files? How to convert?
Using libsndfile's sndfile-convert:
sndfile-convert in.aiff out.wav
Erik
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-----------------------------------------------------------------
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2:37 p.m.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:52 AM, schoappied <schoappied(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
LinuxSampler is a toy.
the long time best place to go for free gig files always was
http://www.worrasplace.com
however I looked at the site this morning and it seems it's either
messed up or unmaintained at this time. Keep an eye on it as this
happens with that site from time to time. Hopefully it will get well
soon.
- Mark
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:41 AM, schoappied
<schoappied(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Where can I find the best free soundfiles? (I know the place at the
linuxsampler forum)...
Forgot to ask:
Which file output give the best sound?
- specimen file
- soundfont
- *.gig file
I don't know enough about specimen to take in depth about that.
However typically the gig files I use generally support multiple
samples / note. The samples are chosen during playback based not only
on what key I hit but also on things like MIDI velocity or controller
settings. GigaStudio (but not LS) can do some very sophisticated
things like live mixing of different samples in the same gig file,
inserting processing on the samples, etc., to get some wonderful
results.
I don't use soundfonts much. The older files I purchased only
supported a single sample / note at that time. This meant to modulate
volume with MIDI velocity all you got was the same sample played
louder which is fine over a limited volume range but generally not
that great from 0-127.
Whatever you choose to use, please don't worry too much about the
stuff above. Just let your ears tell you if you're getting what you
want.
Have fun,
Mark
3:38 p.m.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:52 PM, schoappied <schoappied(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Where can I find the best free soundfiles? (I know the place at the
linuxsampler forum)...
As a benefit to everyone who doesn't yet know about it, here it is. :-)
https://bb.linuxsampler.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11
--
Anders Dahnielson
<anders(a)dahnielson.com>
25 Apr
25 Apr
2:34 p.m.
On Friday 25 April 2008, Atte André Jensen wrote:
Dave Phillips wrote:
Heh, we even chose the same language:
http://tapas.affenbande.org/wordpress/?page_id=33
Mine was called wav2specimenbank :)
Regards,
Flo
--
Palimm Palimm!
http://tapas.affenbande.org
Now where did that script get to... Anyone else
have it ?
You might be talking about the attached python script that I wrote and
posted a couple of weeks ago...
5:16 p.m.
Florian Schmidt wrote:
Heh, we even chose the same language:
Of course :-)
--
peace, love & harmony
Atte
http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen
http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk
1:14 p.m.
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 7:04 AM, schoappied <schoappied(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I've to find out specimen cause many people seems to use it. But I can't
find a clear documentation...
You must not be looking very hard: http://zhevny.com/specimen/ (the
guide there is very out of date, but would have given you an idea of
what the program can do).
2:56 p.m.
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schoappied schrieb:
5. What is a patch and how can I get one?
The bank-mechanism of specimen is quite clumsy, it uses absolute
adresses for files and thus the banks cannot be transported, if you have
the wav-files in your home.
So you are best off making your own patches like this:
1.) choose menu/patch/new and name it.
2.) mark the new patch in the list to the left and click "load wavesample"
3.) choose a wave-file you want to play as a sample and click OK ("Load"
does not work)
4.) now have a look at the piano-roll in the lower left:
this one allows you, to make your patch(sample) sensitive to MIDI-notes.
A yellow rectangle is already on it, it represents the note, that plays
the sample un pitched. You can move this point to another note with
middle klicks. to define a range of notes, that should play the sample,
make right klicks right to his point to define the highest note, that
should trigger the sample and a left klick define the deepest note.
Specimen cares for all the needed resampling. Though specimen does not
master the trick to change pitch without affecting the timescale, this
works just great, especially for percussion.Every sample can be mapped
individually as you wish, thus you can make layered samples by mapping
more then one sample to the same notes and tune the velocity-sensitivity
until a snare sample with more bass/punch is only mixed in if you hit
your trigger-pad really hard ;-)
The latter mechanism works even better then the layering in H2 - you can
make velocity trigger cutoff and resonance for instance. I discovered
all its powers after you had asked for a solution for drum sounds aside
H2 ;-)
best
HZN
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