On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 05:26:11PM +0200, Atte Andr? Jensen wrote: That was pretty much my reason. Well, I have no love for Gentoo, but Debian was my favorite until I gave Ubuntu a shot. So far the small amount of typicical linux audio work I've tried hasn't been hard. A few systems at work run Ubuntu and do some fairly heavy pro audio/video work, but they use video cards with closed source drivers, and custom audio cards, also with closed source audio drivers, and, of course, closed source applications written specifically for that hardware combo. ALSA and jack are not used at all and audio latency is adequate.

Frank Barknecht wrote: Yes. But if the next stable is as long under way as sarge was, 5/6 of the time I'll be running software that's more than half a year old... Although testing could have been the sweet spot of debian, it's mostly useless IMHO. This is because some software is really old at times and some is quite buggy. Maybe. As I mentioned I just ordered a biiig HD for my laptop. So actually I planned to have a small partition with debian/sarge, no x, no nothing, just my realtime csound setup and the rest in one big partition with ubunto for desktop usage. So maybe my small csound partition should be demudi.... -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://www.atte.dk

Last Monday 20 June 2005 23:13, Atte André Jensen was like: You may like it, you will see ... ;) A/DeMuDi-1.2.1 is based on Sarge, 1.3 will be based on Etch (probably). There is a reasonable chance that Etch won't take as long as Sarge to develop. Floating. Official releases come out once the system is stable. 1.2.1 will probably be released once the problems with the 2.6 kernels are resolved (looks like soon). There is a vague roadmap here: http://demudi.agnula.org/roadmap I'm recording my album with it. A/DeMuDi _is_ Debian stable with a multimedia kernel and more up to date or specially recompiled audio packages. Ubuntu is nice for people who find Debian daunting and it is working towards better multimedia integration, but it may require more effort to get everything else working nicely. A/DeMuDi has contributed to the Custom Debian Distribution project and also uses some Ubuntu packages (e.g. Xorg). Lines of communication between the two distros are pretty open AFAICT. A/DeMuDi delivers a working audio system as easily as Ubuntu delivers a working desktop system. Judging by the number of people using DeMuDi packages with Ubuntu, I'd guess that the bumps and wrinkles of using the two together could be ironed out quite quickly. I think the best place to focus Debian-based multimedia development is A/DeMuDi, both projects cycle packages back into the Debian tree, so everyone benefits in the long run. P.S. Sarge is the sweet spot right now. It's stable and reasonably up to date. Remember that the apt-get system allows you a lot of flexibility. Blah. cheers, tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk

Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com> writes: Sorry, I was not clear. Why switching to ubuntu? No, I reccomend debian+demudi (man, I really am not clear). Meybe I'm not hardcore enough. For new users it's a great distro, I have not been impressed in terms of trying to do audio. the best way to go. ./MiS

On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 10:14 -0400, Michal Seta wrote: YMMV, but I switched to Ubuntu because I got sick of my Debian bug reports being ignored. Lee