jdd wrote: jdd, Sorry I wasn't that clear. When I first worte I was wondering if Audacity handles VSTi's as opposed to just VST's. I don't want to record using Audacity. I was wondering if Audacity could serve as a simple VSTi host. From further reading I think it won't. I'm currently using Pro Tools under Win XP on one machine and on another I use Acid Pro under Win ME to host VSTi's. Acid accepts MIDI input, for instance, and generates audio output using it's own Tempo sync. I then fly the audio back to Pro Tools to record. Since writing the first message here I Spent some time looking at the Audacity-help archives. I think I won't even bother loading Audacity. It appear the community is not very helpful. It looks like fewer than 20% of the requests there get even a single response. I did better here getting 3 responses than anyone has there in the month of April! ;-) Thanks for all the response, even Russell's! ;-) Off to find a more simple VSTi platform for my system. Sorry, but I'm just not up to loading a 4th version of Wine so that I can attempt to do this under Linux. I currently have 3 Wine versions running. I wish these Wine guys would converge, or the Linux VST Server project would choose a release that these other major projects are using. Cheers, Mark

Quoting Russell Hanaghan <hanaghan(a)starband.net>et>: I don't know how mature or usable vmWare's audio "emulation" is, but have you guys tried or considered using vmWare to run the Windows-side software? It's only a "hardware" emulator - the CPU stuff runs at 90-95% full speed. I've used it very effectively on server consolidations and to eliminate the random flake-factors of running Wintendo. =MB= -- A focus on Quality.

Quoting Russell Hanaghan <hanaghan(a)starband.net>et>: Sure! But if it's just a CPU process [a software filter/processor], then vmWare won't be getting in the way really - and today's boxen are well over 2GHz. But then again, I just realised... how would those hosts communicate with the linux-side components. I doubt VST has a "network transport" mode, alas. Alas, I didn't think of that minor detail. When in doubt, seek Quality. =MB= -- A focus on Quality.

On Thursday 29 Apr 2004 10:50 pm, Mark Knecht wrote: I don't think that's the case at all - try the audacity-users and audacity-devel lists and you'll see lots of requests for help being answered. Audacity is an excellent destructive editor, especially for very large projects that can't be worked on with a RAM-based editor, such as Sweep. It's also very easy to use for musicians who aren't computer literate, because the GUI is very straightforward. It can also be used as a multitrack recorder, although overdubs need manual timing adjustment because the latency using the OSS interface isn't great. The main limitations on Linux are that native ALSA and JACK support is still experimental, but apart from that it is extremely stable and reliable. We can record eight tracks at 48KHz sample rate for half an hour or more without glitches. (For some reason, at 44.1KHz we can only do six inputs reliably). Cheers Daniel

Daniel James wrote: Daniel, I do not subscribe to any Linux devel lists. They have, over and over again. proved to be not good places for me to spend my time. Life is too short. If I've stepped on your toes I apologize for that, but my I Stand by my comment. Looking at audacity-help (or the first 5-6 pages of the archives) the response rate is pretty miserable: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=828 If you are saying this is the wrong place for me (and others) to get help then possibly you should eliminate this list all together. However I'm sure you'd agree that a list called 'Audacity Help' isn't a bad place for a new user to ask. I chose this list by going first to the Audactiy List page at Source Forge, at this address: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=6235 and then going down the list, starting from the top, and looking for a good place to get help. Since audacity-help shows up first, and since it has about 8 times as many posts (>16K vs about 2600 for audacity-user) I spent my time reading in that forum. If you think I've made some mistake then that's your right but I stand by what I said. There are lots of people posting in audacity-help and getting no response. Actually, looking at audactiy-users archive, the first page, there are 25 threads dating back to 3/22/04. Of those 25 threads 10 go unansered in any form. That's 40% of the users that got no response from anyone. Possibly these archives are a bit bogus though as there doesn't even seem to be traffic since April 4th which is a month ago, making me think no one is using this program, but that's where you sent me. I'm sure it is. I'm sure that it works as designed and that the source code is good quality.

Mark Knecht wrote: did you look at the subjects and answers? I just did and notice that most of the posts are spam (and this is very annoying) but most of the true question have a correct answer. audacity is a very straightforward product, with a very good help file and need very few questions. (it was not so two years ago :-() I use it dayly on Linux or Windows - the very last version has an impressive list of filters. I just said to a fellow "alas audacity lacks such feature", look at the screeen and discover it was in (added lately, probably) :-) jdd